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[Barry Warsaw <barry@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Sep 22, 2009, at 7:13 AM, Deryck Hodge wrote:

> On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 5:58 AM, Tom Berger  
> <tom.berger@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > So basically what you're saying is that you predict that hand  
> > crafting
> > a title for each and every view in Launchpad will end up being less
> > work than a few more iterations on improving the generic page title
> > solution?
>
> Yup, that is exactly what I am saying.
>
> Note, that I think reverse breadcrumbs for page titles is generally a
> bad idea for a number of reasons, which I've tried to outline, but
> *one* of these reasons is that hand crafting does indeed seem
> easier/quicker to me in this case.  Shouldn't we be most of the way
> there already with page_title and the 3.0 UI update?

I'm pessimistic about the amount of work to hand craft page titles.   
We have at least 375 templates which translates to at least that many  
pages.  Look how much effort it was just to do mechanical conversions  
of templates.  It's going to be a huge amount of work to first think  
of a useful title, bikeshed on that a bit, make the change, and update  
the tests.

OTOH, I do occasionally look at the title and I want to see something  
useful there.  A bug number, a project name, a person's name, a  
question number.  That's really all I care about.  I don't generally  
care that it's nice and human readable, and in fact, if the most  
important piece of information (say the bug number) were the first  
thing in the title, I think that would be /more/ useful to me.

I think a good middle ground would be to make sure our breadcrumb  
components are as useful as they can be.  That will help improve the  
usability in two places.  There may also be tweaks to the <title>  
algorithm that can ensure the most useful information is present and  
in the best location.

-Barry

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