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[Curtis Hovey <curtis.hovey@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Wed, 2010-01-27 at 08:29 +0000, Jonathan Lange wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Curtis Hovey
> <curtis.hovey@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > On Tue, 2010-01-26 at 10:47 +0000, Jonathan Lange wrote:
> >> Hello all,
> >>
> >> Monty Taylor from Drizzle did a talk about Launchpad at linux.conf.au
> >> last week. Here are the notes I made about his wishes for Launchpad.
> >>
> >> Actually, some of the notes might be notes that I made about my wishes
> >> for Launchpad. Anyway, they are shared here for your amusement and
> >> enlightenment.
> > ...
> >> = Registry =
> >>
> >>  * Milestones / series hard to use
> >
> > As you know, series and milestones are improved by me in my spare time,
> > driven by my personal need. Monty is has not reported, commented on, or
> > subscribed to any of the bugs about this issue.
> >
> 
> Hey Curtis,
> 
> The work you've done on improving series & milestones has been
> excellent. I've certainly noticed them being easier to use.
> 
> Please don't feel uncharitably toward Monty. I made a quick note based
> on an off-hand comment and forwarded them to the list so I could
> delete an icon from my desktop.
> 
> > I image his concern is:
> >
> >        174468  Series, releases, and milestones overlap confusingly
> >        https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-registry/+bug/174468
> >
> >        418529  Create a milestone is more common than register a series
> >        https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-registry/+bug/418529
> >
> 
> I won't speak for Monty, but from talking to other users, I get the
> impression that they simply aren't clear what series in particular are
> modeling. A release makes sense, a milestone makes sense, but most
> people don't understand what series "gets" them.
> 
> Maybe it's worth looking at the docs we already have for this.

Look into? The only document I know if is my thoughtful explanation of
leading and trailing series on launchpad-users. We need examples of the
project planing styles documented, because the use of a series is
considerably different when you compare leading series to trailing
series.

> > There is also the issue that we are not showing the bug/blueprint
> > summaries on series pages, making it very difficult to see milestone
> > capacity and team velocity--I do not know how to fix this other than
> > send an entire release moving that into an ajax request
> >
> 
> It's a performance issue?

Yes, 80% of the milestone page (and formerly the series pages) is in
python. The objects were cached, but looping over kills performance. The
problem appears to the the private bug implementation. The series pages
were fixed by removing the counts, which means you cannot see your
velocity on the series pages :(


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