RE: [Fwd: hggdh2 deactivated by matthew.revell]

["Philip Stone" <Philip.Stone@xxxxxxxxx>]

Cyrus I fully agree!

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From: launchpad-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:launchpad-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Cyrus Jones
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 7:55 PM
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Subject: Re: [Fwd: hggdh2 deactivated by matthew.revell]

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Sorry, but I do not think this idea is justified.

What does one mean by "real name." If I call myself  Roly Farley, does
that constitute a real name?

There are many reasons not to use a person's real actual name. For
example, gender, ethnicity, relation to another person, and family.
But there may be privacy reasons, and I do think privacy is an
important issue. To me, privacy is an important aspect of free
software; for example the available source code and resulting peer
review destroys virtually all possible backdoors. A person may not
want to have their online identity connected to their real-world
identity for many ethical reasons.

I can partially (I do, however, understand some of the arguments
against this) that a person may feel less comfortable working with a
person whose name is ghhsgsa. This plausible, only because it gives
less of a human feeling and may make a person who is suited to a
professional business-like environment uncomfortable and feel less
productive.

But I disagree with a "real name" as in the actual name in real life
that is used in one's passport, etc. If I call myself Roly Farley (or
a decent realistic name) and it is the same name I use in my "online
identity", specifically when related to the free software community,
my name should be just as acceptable as a real actual name.

Just to take an example. If one refers to himself/herself as Roly
Farley (or a decent realistic name) throughout the online world
whenever there is something important involved, should that person use
his/her actual real name, even when there is no mention of the real
name on the Internet, and even when there is a history and background
of the online identity that has been built around Roly Farley? How
would one know that isn't the person's real name, especially if that
online identity has a background?

I take this quite seriously, because a project that does not
understand is being hypocritical and inconsiderate.

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On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 8:37 PM, Efrain <efrain@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 2/22/08, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort <pochu27@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Efrain wrote:
> > > hey,
> > >
> > > I would definetely have a problem colaborating with someone who remains
> > > anonimous. but that's just me.
> >
> > When I started contributing to Ubuntu, I was just 'pochu', and AFAIK there
> were
> > no references to my real name on the internet. Would you have had troubles
> > collaborating with me just because I was pochu?
>
>
> Yes.
>
>
> > I don't think you should,
>
>
> but it´s my choice.
>
>
>
> > since
> > I can do and I would do the same good/bad work, and have the same attitude
> > either being more or less identified. Not working with people because they
> don't
> > have their full name is IMHO a "great" way of losing contributors.
>
>
> I am not promoting a policy, I am just saying. I do not trust people that
> simply don´t care enough to share names.
>
>
>
> > >
> > > you are free to do as you wish... but I am also free to not trust you...
> > >
> > > cheers
> >
> > Will you trust someone just because he has a real name in his gecos on irc
> or in
> > his email address? Personally I won't.
>
>
> No, but I would trust a person without a real name much less...
>
>
> > I will trust him if he deserves it for
> > what he has done/demonstrated with his work, and not just because he
> showing me
> > a /real/ name (where real is arguable).
>
>
> I respect your point of view and your will to believe in participation.
>
>
>
> > I think "forcing" people to show their real name is discouraging, and
> unless
> > there is a major reason for this (which there may be and that's why I
> asked
> > whether there is) this shouldn't be done. We don't require it for triaging
> bugs,
> > for making translations, for joining ubuntu channels on IRC... so that's
> why I'm
> > disappointed with this.
>
>
> again, I am not looking to make a dent in the policy of participation, but
> then again *I* wouldn´t trust a person who wishes to remain anonymous... it
> is his call to remain so, and it is my call to trust or not to trust.
>
> It´s just my opinion.
>
> > Best,
> > Emilio
>
>
> Regards
>
>
>
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