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[David Yentzen <dbyentzen@xxxxxxxxx>]

Thanks Ali for the email
+1
David
On Nov 13, 2013 2:03 AM, "Nio Wiklund" <nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Thank you for the update
> Best regards/Nio
>
> On 2013-11-13 08:40, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote:
> > Hello everyone (it is good morning here) :)
> >
> > I am going to share with you all the information I have gotten for the
> > last 24hours so that you guys remain updated in case I will fade away
> > for whatever reason :P
> > No seriously, I must share this with you all :)
> >
> > I am sending this to Team Leaders of Lubuntu + two very active members
> > (Lars and Nio) and CC'ing two sub-teams (Comms and Brainstorming)
> > because these are the people who are or should be involved, at least
> IMHO :)
> >
> > 1- This is an email from a long time Lubuntu User/Member and he knows
> Mario
> >
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > Date: Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 4:47 PM
> > Subject: Re: http://lubuntu.net
> > To: "Ali Linx (amjjawad)" <amjjawad@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:amjjawad@xxxxxxxxx
> >>
> >
> >
> > Hi Ali,
> >
> > I saw his Gmail many times so I know how he filters his mails. I know
> > you have already included him in recipient lists however if your mail
> > matches his Lubuntu's label filter he can skip your mail from his inbox.
> > This is why he doesn't get bothered by Lubuntu mailing list mails for
> > years, as you have already seen.
> >
> > Just another note, he is the owner of lubuntu.net <http://lubuntu.net>
> > domain, it will expire in next January, if he is not interested in or
> > forgets to extend the domain, we will lost it. So if he contacts you,
> > make sure you deal with him not only about the website or accessing
> > acounts but also about the domain.
> >
> > I hope everything will be fine soon.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> > 2- I have sent this email to CC (Community Council) - that was Howard's
> > suggestion :
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: Ali Linx (amjjawad) <amjjawad@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:amjjawad@xxxxxxxxx
> >>
> > Date: Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 1:51 PM
> > Subject: Lubuntu Website
> > To: community-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > <mailto:community-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >
> >
> > Dear Community Council,
> >
> > My name is Ali - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad - and I have many
> > roles with Lubuntu, Ubuntu GNOME and Ubuntu Quality. When it comes to
> > Lubuntu - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/Lubuntu-Team - I am currently
> > the Team Leader of Lubuntu Brainstorming Team and active member of other
> > Sub-Teams within Lubuntu.
> >
> > For two years now or maybe more, we have unresolved issue that despite
> > the fact we have tried so many times to solve the issue in a very nice,
> > polite and civil approaches, we have failed and we have reached to no
> > where (dead end).
> >
> > http://www.lubuntu.net/
> >
> > Simply, Lubuntu Team has no control over its own website. We have no
> > idea who has access to the website as of today. Previously, "Mario
> > Behling" was in charge but for one year and a half, no one heard a
> > single word from him. We have sent so many emails to the main mailing
> > list of Lubuntu but no one has replied yet:
> >
> >
> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/lubuntu-brainstorming/+spec/lubuntu-website
> >
> > And above, is a blueprint so the whole Lubuntu Community can work
> > together to solve this issue but lack of manpower and activities, made
> > the progress so slow. However, Howard Chan (smartboyhw) has suggested to
> > approach you and send you an email hence this message/email.
> >
> > I do understand, for sure, that this is an internal issue that Lubuntu
> > Team must solve and fix. But, I am afraid the team couldn't do it. Sad
> > but true.
> >
> > I have so many tasks with Ubuntu GNOME Team -
> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/UbuntuGNOME-Team - and no much of time
> > but I do love Lubuntu a lot and I couldn't remain silent so I am trying
> > to do something.
> >
> > Kindly advise, what can we do? you know that any project/team in the
> > world needs a Website. The website has some mistakes and missing
> > information. We are simply wasting lots of time and ended banging our
> > head against the wall if we just want a simple edit and it is either
> > done after so many tries or not done. Odd enough, there is someone with
> > access who sometimes read the emails but he/she is totally silent and
> > work in the shade. NO one knows who has access and who can do some edits.
> >
> > When I joined Ubuntu GNOME and Peppermint, I have had access to the
> > Websites form day one. I don't want to have access over Lubuntu Website,
> > I want Lubuntu Communications Team to have it -
> > https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-comms
> > <https://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-comms> - and not the whole team, at
> > least one or two active members.
> >
> > Sorry to disturb you but we are in bad need to your help. This is our
> > last hope!
> >
> > Thank you so much :)
> >
> >
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > 3- After all the above and before I sleep, I logged in to IRC and I have
> > this information:
> >
> >   * Beside Mario, Julien has access to the website. This is as of today.
> >     Before, other people used to have access but not anymore so those
> >     who can do any kind of update, etc are: Mario and Julien ONLY -
> AFAIK.
> >   * Julien is not replying his emails because he is very busy in Real
> >     Life. And, it seems that he is busy to the point that he can't read
> >     or reply his emails.
> >   * NOT sure but it seems either Julien (most likely) or Mario who did
> >     the last change on the website after we send lots of emails. I have
> >     seen Nio's email this morning and it seems the information is wrong
> >     yet again. Of course, there are other mistakes on the website like
> >     the wrong Twitter account and the slide show is telling the world
> >     that Lubuntu is shipped with Chromium by default while we do know
> >     starting from 13.10, Lubuntu is shipped with Firefox.
> >   * Most likely, our efforts are going to no where. Some good friends
> >     think whatever we are doing is useless and we will never have access
> >     to the website because that is the way it is for the moment.
> >     However, I personally will never give up unless I will be asked to
> >     shut my mouth and most likely, I won't listen :P
> >   * I have talked to someone who works with Canonical but he has no idea
> >     what else we could try more.
> >   * There are many on IRC last night who offered their help to make
> >     Lubuntu Website much better than the current one but of course, that
> >     can only be done after we solve the unsolved issue for 2 years or
> >     more now.
> >   * Because Lubuntu is an official flavour, Canonical has something to
> >     do with the website. Not sure what exactly that is but for example,
> >     I can not change the theme of Ubuntu GNOME website unless I submit a
> >     request to Canonical to do that. So, I guess same applies for
> >     Lubuntu Website.
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> > 4- History of Lubuntu Website:
> > https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-comms/msg00845.html
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> > Okay, so this is all what I know regarding the website. Now, you are
> > aware. I hope I am not alone in this :)
> >
> >
> > Finally, there is a suggestion that some of us have already agreed to it
> > and we are waiting for Rafael's approval:
> > https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-comms/msg00889.html
> >
> > I just updated the blueprint.
> >
> >
> > Rafael is busy. He didn't tell me but I know that because he is not
> > replying. I have worked with him for 2 years and if he is about, he will
> > reply right away.
> >
> >
> > Thank you so much!
> >
> > --
> > Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us."
> > Best Regards,
> > amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad>
> > Areas of Involvement <
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/AreasOfInvolvement>
> > My Projects <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/Projects>
>
>
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