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[Phill Whiteside <phillw@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Hiyas Boss,

Me thinks now would be a good time to decide these items. Setting up a vote,
followed by a meeting may be a good idea?

We have

   - June 14th : End of proposal for applications by default

Followed by


   - June 19th : Decision for the modifications of default applications

@ ALL

Yes, I know everyone who proposes their favourite application that is not
installed by default feels sore, hopefully in Lubuntu we are not that petty
as to leave because of it.

Any application can be added from the repositories, some of the 'weird'
stuff people do to Lubuntu is a testament to just how rock solid it is.

The old, and so far, not replaced rule is that a proposed application may
not...

1) Use any hard disk space up
2) Use any CPU time when running
3) Use any RAM when running.

Whilst we may laugh at such rules, they are what make Lubuntu able to do
what it does on our minimal spec. For those with lots of Hard Disk space and
RAM and really high CPU's - Great. Lubuntu is lean, mean, keen and green.
BUT we are going to remain within our "Pentium II or Celeron system with 128
MiB of RAM"

Regards,

Phill.

On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 10:21 PM, Lance <lbsolost@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> "I say stick with what we've got and lets get Lubuntu twiddled and
> polished.
>
> "Remember when suggesting applications that the target is a couple of
> hundred MHz CPU and 128 MiB of RAM."
>
> Indeed, let's remain focused on keeping Lubuntu light. We also need to
> consider how many changes are already in the works ;^)
>
> I doubt the change to GTK+ 3 will be without numerous challenges, as will
> be transition to becoming a full-fledged Ubuntu release. No easy time for
> the limited number of devs.
>
> But, regarding software in particular this may come into play, from the
> ToDo (more than bite size) list:
>
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers/TODO
>
> "Software-center : Work on a new minimal interface to see if it's possible
> to switch to SC: TODO "
>
> It may be possible that an appropriate version of SC could solve most of
> these problems. Maybe we could install even less and then let people decide
> what fits their needs and hardware best.
>
> But ATM we need to give the devs room to adjust to the changes at hand.
>
>
> --- On *Tue, 6/7/11, Yorvyk <yorvik.ubunto@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Yorvyk <yorvik.ubunto@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Proposed changes to lubuntu-desktop
> To: lubuntu-desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 2:19 PM
>
>
> On Tue, 7 Jun 2011 13:06:28 -0400
> Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset <jpxsat@xxxxxxxxx<http://mc/compose?to=jpxsat@xxxxxxxxx>>
> wrote:
>
> > >From a very-humble user point of view:
> >
> > I use Libre Office + Gnumeric (Abiword can't convince me). As i read
> > recently, Libre Office is getting performance improvements, but the
> problem
> > is still the ram consumption vs the ram used by abiword (i use LO for
> writer
> > and slideshows, but gnumeric is a magnificient tool), LO is an option? It
> > could bring a slideshow editor to Lubuntu... Let individually decide but
> my
> > guess is that Lubuntu should remain with abiword & gnumeric for the
> concept.
> > Midori: in many ways it could be best than chromium, but as PCMAN said,
> it's
> > not stable at all .
> Try running Libre/open Office on a 160 MIB, 300MHz machine and I think
> you'll find it just becomes unpleasant.  Abiword does everything I need of a
> word processor, and I install it on Ubuntu as Libre/Open Office is just
> cumbersome.
> As somebody who has had to sit through endless 'slide show' presentations I
> believe it may be one of the worst uses for a computer ever.
> I have Midori on one machine and keep trying it. It seems to take two steps
> forward then one back.  It has a way to go before it is a real alternative
> to FF or Chromium, sadly.
>
> > Games: ace of penguins is faster than anything, but they're not "cool" at
> > all. Everybody i've shown this says something like "looks ugly, how can i
> > configure it?". There's nothing better around?
> Ace of Penquins is probably best described as functional ;) but, who needs
> 'looks' in card games anyway?  There is however a set of icons being
> produced, slowly, for it. \o/
>
> > PDF viewers: i'm with Rafael on this, Evince is the best choice there is
> > (besides, it can read a lot of formats, not only pdf ;)
> Evince does appear to be the most functional of PDF reader on Linux.
>
> >
> > xscreensaver makes my installations crash on every old computer i own, i
> > already said this on the mailing list: it's heavy and it consumes energy
> > displaying something fancy on the screen instead of just a black screen
> or
> > turn it off (clearly i don't like it...); but it locks the screen, so
> it's
> > necessary.
> I have nothing nice to say about screen-savers so will say nothing.
>
> >
> > xchat as i know is on discussion as i read recently... Pidgin would be
> the
> > option.
> I hate Pidgin and will install XChat if it isn't installed by default.
>
> I say stick with what we've got and lets get Lubuntu twiddled and polished.
>
> Remember when suggesting applications that the target is a couple of
> hundred MHz CPU and 128 MiB of RAM.
>
> --
> Steve Cook (Yorvyk)
>
> http://lubuntu.net
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