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[Phill Whiteside <phillw@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

I'm with whatever our devs choose - they're the ones who have to do the work
:)

Regards,

Phill.

On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Chris <cyber.druif@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Aloha oukou,
>
> I agree with what Julian said about LightDM, on all mentioned
> (dis)advantages. But the advantages should outweigh the disadvantages, as
> Ubuntu and Xubuntu even have way more devs hanging around then Lubuntu.
> Every error or bug we encounter we can put on launchpad and hopefully will
> get sorted by one of the others. When we've got time to spare, we could
> solve it ourselves of course and send our patch as solution.
>
> So to recap, I'm pro on the switch.
>
> With metta,
>
> Chris Druif
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 03:33, Ian Gilfillan <launchpad@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>
>> Julien, just to clarify, LightDM uses 3.2Mb and LXDM 2.3 and not the other
>> way around? This seems a trivial difference.
>>
>> You've mentioned before that support is important for a DM as it needs to
>> be tested across many different configurations. LightDM seems far more
>> active than LXDM, and in spite of being newer you say it's already more
>> complete.
>>
>> I'd say go for the change - if there is a showstopper, or one gets
>> introduced later, it should be relatively easy to revert. Also, if
>> maintenance is being shared with Ubuntu (as opposed to being done by them),
>> it should be possible to stop any issues being introduced that will
>> negatively affect Lubuntu.
>>
>> The main risk seems to be one of bloat as LightDM gets more heavily
>> developed, but LightDM was launched with the purpose of supporting LXDE
>> (although not exclusively, like LXDM), so I'd feel confident about
>> switching.
>>
>> --
>> Ian Gilfillan
>> www.greenman.co.za
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 09/06/2011 00:26, Yorvyk wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 20:39:42 +0200
>>> Julien Lavergne<gilir@xxxxxxxxxx>  wrote:
>>>
>>>  Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I'm a bit late for that, but it still time to discuss such topic.
>>>>
>>>> LightDM [1] will be the next display manager for Ubuntu, and probably
>>>> Xubuntu (maybe Kubuntu also !). It will replace GDM which have a tight
>>>> dependency on GNOME.
>>>>
>>>> LightDM has the advantage to split the greeter (the UI part) and the
>>>> core (which do all the black magic for users, consolkit etc ...). You
>>>> can build a greeter which use GTK only, Qt, Webkit etc ... It's also
>>>> heavily developed this cycle.
>>>>
>>>> Last cycle I tested LightDM, but found that it was not ready. Also, LXDM
>>>> is now in a good shape. I tested it briefly on Oneiric, and it seems in
>>>> better shape now, and with RAM usage similar to LXDM (3.2 vs 2.3 Mb)
>>>>
>>>> To summarize :
>>>>
>>>> Advantages:
>>>> * More complete than LXDM
>>>> * Maintenance shared with Ubuntu and Xubuntu
>>>> * Heavily developed
>>>>
>>>> Disadvantages :
>>>> * New and less tested in Lubuntu than LXDM
>>>> * Dependant to Ubuntu team for changes : we are not free to modify the
>>>> DM, and it's possible that Ubuntu team introduce a change which
>>>> indirectly impact others flavors (remember Ubiquity changes for disk
>>>> requierement last cycle)
>>>>
>>>> IMO, if items I mentioned at the UDS are managed by LightDM [2], we can
>>>> try to switch for this cycle. If later in the cycle we discover that
>>>> there are problems, we can still switch again to LXDM.
>>>>
>>>> What do you think ?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Julien Lavergne
>>>>
>>>> [1] : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM
>>>> [2] : https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-o-lightdm
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  I've been running Ubuntu Oneiric with lightdm for a while and it
>>> appears to behave it's self OK.
>>> Having had a bit of a read about it I don't see an advantage in either,
>>> from a user's point of view, and I'm a bit lost with the technical
>>> (dis)advantages.
>>> A few thoughts.  With the change to GTK3 and the potential problems to be
>>> resolved with that, are we adding another headache for the few competent
>>> devs we have.
>>> Or would having Lightdm give us one less problem, as others in the Ubuntu
>>> community would be dealing with it and we wouldn't have to worry about lxdm
>>> either.
>>> Would sticking with what we know be better as lxdm doesn't have any real
>>> problems and performs the function for which it is intended.
>>>
>>>
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