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[PCMan <pcman.tw@xxxxxxxxx>]

If your "object oriented" refers to the programming language, I'm using
Vala now, which is a OO language built on top of GObject/C runtime. The
language itself is OO. This, however, does not mean that the program
written in it will be OO.
I'm not a fan of "making everything an object" approach. No single
programming style is best for all cases.
Using too much OO stuff in GObject will create extra overhead as its type
system is all created at runtime.
Type-casting and virtual function calls sometimes requires looking up in
tables. Signal emission in GObject/C
is also very inefficient, too. So basically, I'd avoid "unnecessary" OO
whenever possible.

If the term "object oriented" here refers to making everything on the
desktop an object, that's a totally different thing and is not related to
language used.

On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 5:27 PM, Klaus Knopper <lxde@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hi PCMan,
>
> On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 03:21:02PM +0800, PCMan wrote:
> >    On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Alexis Lopez Zubieta
> >    <[1]azubieta@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >      I have a question about lxpanel2.
> >      Are you planing to make it using an object oriented approach?
> >
> >    What do you mean by object oriented approach?
> >    I don't understand what you mean. Any examples?
>
> I THINK he means whether or not you will be using an object oriented
> programming model and programming language (or interpreter on the
> runtime or macro level), which has certain advantages (everything like
> programs, icons, files, windows etc. are objects where all the code
> needed to manage the object is included in the objects class, and not
> spread across different places in the code), and disadvantages (well,
> object oriented code tends to get voluminous and slow, maybe even buggy,
> at least that is the common perception).
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Object-oriented_programming
>
> Gnome and KDE both use object oriented models for their desktops, where
> KDE also uses an object oriented language, while GNOME works more with
> procedural languages (C) and its own object management code.
>
> Btw, for LXDE, I would, independent of that question, opt for using
> anything that is stable, small (in the total resources footprint) and
> fast, even if it means less features. I like C, even that it means you
> have to be extra careful about memory management and pointer
> arithmetics.
>
> One of the "major features" of LXDE for me was always that it needs less
> than 5 seconds to start up all necessary components (lxpanel, pcmanfm,
> window manager), instead of initializing a lot of services before you
> can do actual work on the desktop. I hope that the new versions of
> lxpanel and pcmanfm will still be similarly efficient, no matter which
> model or toolkit you will use.
>
> Regards
> -Klaus
>