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[Lance <lbsolost@xxxxxxxxx>]

I forwarded a copy of this to my daughter and her thought was that "Sunday - Saturday/Friday - Thursday" would be better defined by saying:

Sunday -> Saturday
Friday -> Thurday

Either way, if that is correct, do they expect each iso/upgrade tester to test every day of that cycle?

If so it's a major overload and I think that type of test cycle will only serve to discourage volunteer testing :^(

Lance

--- On Tue, 10/30/12, Lance <lbsolost@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

From: Lance <lbsolost@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Dropping Alphas for raring cycle
To: lubuntu-qa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Phill Whiteside" <PhillW@xxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "Julien Lavergne" <gilir@xxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tuesday, October 30, 2012, 4:08 PM

My thoughts on this are largely positive. When I look at the linked doc I see Nicholas addressed a couple of my concerns:

# stability -- non-developer centric scheduling and testing; code was caught in an untestable state during planned testing

# Should we target specific packages for testing inclusion as part of cadence weeks?

That said I'm not entirely sure what the test cycle is going to be other than "every two weeks" during what we'd previously called "alpha". I'm not the brightest bulb on the tree and referring to "Sunday - Saturday/Friday - Thursday" is a bit confusing to me :^)

Somewhat off-topic but it was mentioned in a previous message that some installation test-cases were changing. I think that's great!

I've never used LVM or full disk encryption but we'd long neglected the upgrade/reinstall via live CD/DVD/USB
 options which I've actually found to be a truly great option since Maverick ;^)

I just hope they keep Nicholas where he is! He seems to listen and he's open to change when and where change is needed.

Lance

PS: I've been doing some Precise 'abiword' testing:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2074321

Julien came to the rescue but i need a few more days to figure out a few things because we have to consider potential effects on all of the other flavors ;^)

--- On Tue, 10/30/12, Phill Whiteside <PhillW@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

From: Phill Whiteside <PhillW@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Dropping Alphas for raring cycle
To: lubuntu-qa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: "Julien Lavergne" <gilir@xxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tuesday, October 30, 2012, 12:54 PM

Hi folks, 
apologies for the zero notice on this, I was part way through drafting something up when I got distracted over our test-cases!
I've attached the ether-pad (in html format to preserve the links) which has the various links on it for Cadence testing. It was agreed that we will do Fri - Thur testing instead of Sun - Sat in order not to split a weekend up.

To surmise, cadence testing will last for 7 days and be carried out fortnightly - as you can see from the attached document, Nicholas has some tasks to carry out to ready the wiki area for the calendar / reporting etc. It makes good sense for us to follow what 'main' Ubuntu are doing in terms of testing time tables and with cadence we do not have the mad scurry to get milestone releases out early in the cycle. During cadence the daily images will continue to be built and simply replace the cadence version on the iso tracker - So, it will be important to zsync before doing testing. 

Cadence was 'beta' tested by Ubuntu in the 'Q' cycle and the lessons learned are to be applied for 'R'. If you good people who do the grunt work of the testing have any questions do please ask (and I'll go ask Nicholas :P ).

Regards,
Phill.

On 30 October 2012 15:54, Julien Lavergne <gilir@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi,



As you may know, Alphas will be dropped for Ubuntu ISOs, and it's up to the flavors to decide if they want to keep the Alphas or not. Instead, it will be replace by a cadence testing, meaning we can be free to organize the daily testing, and only have Beta 1, Beta 2 and Final release with the classic process. Personnaly, I think it's a good idea, since Alpha are basicly a snapshot of the current developpement with a bit more testing.




As you are the people who do the actual testing, what do you think about it ?



Thanks in advance for your feedback.



Regards,

Julien Lavergne





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