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Re: changes to release cycle.
Holy SH1T....
are we facing a meltdown?
http://www.muktware.com/5343/kubuntu-opens-doors-disappointed-ubuntu-community?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+muktware%2Ffeeds+%28Muktware+Feeds%29
Those are not words / comments I'd expect to read.
Regards,
Phill.
On 6 March 2013 20:44, Ali Linx (amjjawad) <amjjawad@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> And for those who don't have facebook and can't read the whole text as
> there is "See More" link, here is the whole text.
>
>
>
>
> -
> <https://www.facebook.com/jonobacon/posts/10151532662746458?notif_t=comment_mention#>
> Phill Whiteside <https://www.facebook.com/phill.whiteside> Whilst the
> UDS for what happens with rolling releases, potential of dropping 13.04
> etc. Would it be out of order for the Ubuntu Community Manager to actually
> give us an update of what is happening? I love BBQ ribs like the next
> person, but I have community teams asking WTF is going on. To them, I have
> no answer. To you I ask.
> Regards,
> Phill Whiteside <https://www.facebook.com/phill.whiteside>
> 19 hours ago<https://www.facebook.com/jonobacon/posts/10151532662746458?comment_id=27545163&offset=0&total_comments=17>
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> Jono Bacon <https://www.facebook.com/jonobacon> Phill Whiteside<https://www.facebook.com/phill.whiteside> woah!
> relax a little. We literally just started discussing it this week and it is
> just a proposal, nothing is confirmed or cast in stone - there is a lot of
> discussion that needs to happen before we make any potential changes along
> those lines. Patience is your friend.
> 17 hours ago<https://www.facebook.com/jonobacon/posts/10151532662746458?comment_id=27545880&offset=0&total_comments=17>
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> Phill Whiteside <https://www.facebook.com/phill.whiteside> Jono Bacon<https://www.facebook.com/jonobacon> whilst
> it has just been begun to be discussed, the 'news' and general chat areas
> have been squealing with the "lets's make some breaking news".. As a
> tester, and a Team Leader of testers... May I suggest that when the
> un-official news channels are blazing with FUDD, and there is no 'official'
> news coming out, that people who care start to feel like mushrooms... fed
> bull-shit and kept in the dark.
> 17 hours ago<https://www.facebook.com/jonobacon/posts/10151532662746458?comment_id=27546244&offset=0&total_comments=17>
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> Jono Bacon <https://www.facebook.com/jonobacon> Phill Whiteside<https://www.facebook.com/phill.whiteside> I
> don't understand what you mean by "let's make some breaking news". It is
> pretty simple: an idea for a release management change was proposed to
> ubuntu-devel, and now we need to have a detailed, focused, and
> comprehensive discussion about whether it makes sense. These kinds of
> big changes take time to discuss and get right. If people are chomping at
> the bit for an answer, they are just going to need to wait a little until
> we reach a conclusion...this happens with every large proposed change in
> our community.
> 17 hours ago<https://www.facebook.com/jonobacon/posts/10151532662746458?comment_id=27546304&offset=0&total_comments=17>
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> Phill Whiteside <https://www.facebook.com/phill.whiteside> Have a
> read of
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2013-March/thread.html and
> then yesterdays meeting. All I ask is a decision? I have people asking and
> I cannot give answers. It gets even worse if you go to Feb...
> *The ubuntu-devel March 2013 Archive by thread<http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Flists.ubuntu.com%2Farchives%2Fubuntu-devel%2F2013-March%2Fthread.html&h=wAQFgxzS7AQE1fdqygJ9e1adIfWptL7veJmlqA4gqVDLUZA&s=1>
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> lists.ubuntu.com
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> Jono Bacon <https://www.facebook.com/jonobacon> Phill Whiteside<https://www.facebook.com/phill.whiteside> dude,
> how many times do I have to say this - there will be some time before we
> can make a final decision - you don't make changes like this lightly. If
> people are asking you for a decision, tell 'em to slow their roll a little
> until the discussion has run it's course.
> 17 hours ago<https://www.facebook.com/jonobacon/posts/10151532662746458?comment_id=27546348&offset=0&total_comments=17>
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> Phill Whiteside <https://www.facebook.com/phill.whiteside> Jono Bacon<https://www.facebook.com/jonobacon> and
> has anyone from canonical made that call?
> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1303/meeting/21683/community-1303-rolling-release/ says
> not.
> <http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fsummit.ubuntu.com%2Fuds-1303%2Fmeeting%2F21683%2Fcommunity-1303-rolling-release%2F&h=DAQG8uYaLAQHoG8lGtXRs0X2AyHSOJ1lCxfDlZtwkxSwiWA&s=1>
> *Should Ubuntu adopt a monthly cadence/rolling release?<http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fsummit.ubuntu.com%2Fuds-1303%2Fmeeting%2F21683%2Fcommunity-1303-rolling-release%2F&h=oAQGWwZfpAQE7vXuGB9YnUcVZajOJuTKpjrN1H0VFIStLVA&s=1>
> *
> summit.ubuntu.com
> It has been proposed that Ubuntu adopt a rolling release model + LTS
> instead of a 6-monthly release cadence. This session is to continue
> the discussion started on @ubuntu-devel:https://lists.ubuntu.com/
> archives/ubuntu-devel/2013-February/036537.html<http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Flists.ubuntu.com%2Farchives%2Fubuntu-devel%2F2013-February%2F036537.html&h=DAQG8uYaLAQGqwUundCVZh3m4TugVHcBu0S8H1UDtdIDSSg&s=1> Discuss
> the pros, cons, and consequences of such...
> 17 hours ago<https://www.facebook.com/jonobacon/posts/10151532662746458?comment_id=27546368&offset=0&total_comments=17>
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> Phill Whiteside <https://www.facebook.com/phill.whiteside> Jono Bacon<https://www.facebook.com/jonobacon> We
> don;t. at this time even know if there will be a 13.04 release. I do think
> it is time to "get a grip" and make decisions.
> 17 hours ago<https://www.facebook.com/jonobacon/posts/10151532662746458?comment_id=27546380&offset=0&total_comments=17>
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> Jono Bacon <https://www.facebook.com/jonobacon> Phill Whiteside<https://www.facebook.com/phill.whiteside> you
> are obviously not reading what I am writing here - I am going to say this
> one...last...time - no decision has been made yet because the discussion
> has not finished yet, we are just at the beginning. You continually keep
> asking the same question and I keep giving you the same answer...wait
> until the community has completed the discussion and then a decision and
> any appropriate changes will be introduced. I am not going to repeat myself
> again.
> 17 hours ago<https://www.facebook.com/jonobacon/posts/10151532662746458?comment_id=27546392&offset=0&total_comments=17>
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> Phill Whiteside <https://www.facebook.com/phill.whiteside> Jono Bacon<https://www.facebook.com/jonobacon> and
> you are obviously not reading the public logs that others are reading... A
> UDS session does hold a lot of sway for news when the teams are discussing.
> It is for such a simple thing that all the uncertainty is following. Please
> read the log of the meeting and then tell me how anyone following it would
> have the faintest idea as to how things for release are going to happen?
> 16 hours ago<https://www.facebook.com/jonobacon/posts/10151532662746458?comment_id=27546421&offset=0&total_comments=17>
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> Jono Bacon <https://www.facebook.com/jonobacon> Phill Whiteside<https://www.facebook.com/phill.whiteside> watch
> the video - I was *in* that meeting. As I said, I am not going to continue
> on this circular discussion, refer to my previous comments.
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> Phill Whiteside <https://www.facebook.com/phill.whiteside> Jono Bacon<https://www.facebook.com/jonobacon> and
> when will you give the final decision that Canonical make?
> 16 hours ago<https://www.facebook.com/jonobacon/posts/10151532662746458?comment_id=27546433&offset=0&total_comments=17>
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> Jono Bacon <https://www.facebook.com/jonobacon> Phill Whiteside<https://www.facebook.com/phill.whiteside> when
> the decision is made, hopefully in the next month or so.
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> Phill Whiteside <https://www.facebook.com/phill.whiteside> Jono Bacon<https://www.facebook.com/jonobacon> which,
> if you appreciate, does not help me, or other team leaders, for quality /
> testing side to have things done. People will just walk away if they feel
> their work is is in vain. I'm sorry to nag, but I spent a lot of time
> getting the testing team together & your answer is simply not good enough
> for me to keep them on board.
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> Phill Whiteside <https://www.facebook.com/phill.whiteside> It is not
> too hard... will 13.04 happen?
> 16 hours ago<https://www.facebook.com/jonobacon/posts/10151532662746458?comment_id=27546467&offset=0&total_comments=17>
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> Jono Bacon <https://www.facebook.com/jonobacon> Phill Whiteside<https://www.facebook.com/phill.whiteside> well,
> sorry you are dissatisfied, but it is what it is - significant changes in
> community development and release processes take time to discuss and
> finalize as a community. You will just have to wait. And with this, I am
> going to wrap up this discussion. Take care!
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> Phill Whiteside <https://www.facebook.com/phill.whiteside> and you.
> 16 hours ago<https://www.facebook.com/jonobacon/posts/10151532662746458?comment_id=27546476&offset=0&total_comments=17>
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>
>
> On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Phill Whiteside <PhillW@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> as you will well know, things are changing. As a part of if 13.04 will
>> actually happen I've been trying to find out as I don't want you guys to
>> waste your valuable time testing stuff that will not be released. This came
>> to head after the UDS session as to what will happen. Below is my log with
>> jono from whom I tried to get a definitive answer for the testing teams, it
>> did not go well....
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> -
>>> - Phill Whiteside <https://www.facebook.com/phill.whiteside> Whilst
>>> the UDS for what happens with rolling releases, potential of dropping 13.04
>>> etc. Would it be out of order for the Ubuntu Community Manager to actually
>>> give us an update of what is happening? I love BBQ ribs like the next
>>> person, but I have community teams asking WTF is going on. To them, I have
>>> no answer. To you I ask.
>>> Regards,
>>> Phill Whiteside <https://www.facebook.com/phill.whiteside>
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>>> Jono Bacon <https://www.facebook.com/jonobacon> Phill Whiteside<https://www.facebook.com/phill.whiteside> woah!
>>> relax a little. We literally just started discussing it this week and it is
>>> just a proposal, nothing is confirmed or cast in stone - there is a lot of
>>> discussion that needs to happen before we make any potential changes along
>>> those lines. Patience is your friend.
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>>> Phill Whiteside <https://www.facebook.com/phill.whiteside> Jono
>>> Bacon <https://www.facebook.com/jonobacon> whilst it has just been
>>> begun to be discussed, the 'news' and general chat areas have been
>>> squealing with the "lets's make some breaking news".. As a tester, and a
>>> Team Leader of testers... May I suggest that when the un-official news
>>> channels are blazing with FUDD, and there is no 'official' news coming out,
>>> that people who care start to feel like mushrooms... fed bull-shit and kept
>>> in the dark.
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>>> Jono Bacon <https://www.facebook.com/jonobacon> Phill Whiteside<https://www.facebook.com/phill.whiteside> I
>>> don't understand what you mean by "let's make some breaking news". It is
>>> pretty simple: an idea for a release management change was proposed to
>>> ubuntu-devel, and now we need to have a detailed, focused, and
>>> comprehensive discussion ab...See More<https://www.facebook.com/jonobacon/posts/10151532662746458?notif_t=comment_mention#>
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>>> Phill Whiteside <https://www.facebook.com/phill.whiteside> Have a
>>> read of
>>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2013-March/thread.html
>>>
>>> and then yesterdays meeting. All I ask is a decision? I have people
>>> asking and I cannot give answers. It gets even worse if you go to Feb...
>>> *The ubuntu-devel March 2013 Archive by thread<https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2013-March/thread.html>
>>>
>>> *
>>> lists.ubuntu.com
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>>> Jono Bacon <https://www.facebook.com/jonobacon> Phill Whiteside<http://www.facebook.com/phill.whiteside> dude,
>>> how many times do I have to say this - there will be some time before we
>>> can make a final decision - you don't make changes like this lightly. If
>>> people are asking you for a decision, tell 'em to slow their roll a little
>>> until the discussion has run it's course.
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>>> Phill Whiteside <https://www.facebook.com/phill.whiteside> Jono
>>> Bacon <https://www.facebook.com/jonobacon> and has anyone from
>>> canonical made that call?
>>> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1303/meeting/21683/community-1303-rolling-release/
>>>
>>> says not.
>>> <http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fsummit.ubuntu.com%2Fuds-1303%2Fmeeting%2F21683%2Fcommunity-1303-rolling-release%2F&h=rAQF_lZdvAQExtq1vMtSwPv-Cx1_VDsNEWZ7qetQ4zi2gFA&s=1>
>>> *Should Ubuntu adopt a monthly cadence/rolling release?<http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1303/meeting/21683/community-1303-rolling-release/>
>>>
>>> *
>>> summit.ubuntu.com
>>> It has been proposed that Ubuntu adopt a rolling release model + LTS
>>> instead of ...See more
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>>> Phill Whiteside <https://www.facebook.com/phill.whiteside> Jono
>>> Bacon <https://www.facebook.com/jonobacon> We don;t. at this time
>>> even know if there will be a 13.04 release. I do think it is time to "get a
>>> grip" and make decisions.
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>>> Jono Bacon <https://www.facebook.com/jonobacon> Phill Whiteside<http://www.facebook.com/phill.whiteside> you
>>> are obviously not reading what I am writing here - I am going to say this
>>> one...last...time - no decision has been made yet because the discussion
>>> has not finished yet, we are just at the beginning. You continually keep
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>>> Phill Whiteside <https://www.facebook.com/phill.whiteside> Jono
>>> Bacon <https://www.facebook.com/jonobacon> and you are obviously not
>>> reading the public logs that others are reading... A UDS session does hold
>>> a lot of sway for news when the teams are discussing. It is for such a
>>> simple thing that all the uncertainty is following. Please read the log of
>>> the meeting and then tell me how anyone following it would have the
>>> faintest idea as to how things for release are going to happen?
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>>>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/jonobacon/posts/10151532662746458?notif_t=comment_mention#>
>>> Jono Bacon <https://www.facebook.com/jonobacon> Phill Whiteside<http://www.facebook.com/phill.whiteside> watch
>>> the video - I was *in* that meeting. As I said, I am not going to continue
>>> on this circular discussion, refer to my previous comments.
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>>> · Like<https://www.facebook.com/jonobacon/posts/10151532662746458?notif_t=comment_mention#>
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>>>
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>>> Phill Whiteside <https://www.facebook.com/phill.whiteside> Jono
>>> Bacon <https://www.facebook.com/jonobacon> and when will you give
>>> the final decision that Canonical make?
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>>>
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>>> Jono Bacon <https://www.facebook.com/jonobacon> Phill Whiteside<http://www.facebook.com/phill.whiteside> when
>>> the decision is made, hopefully in the next month or so.
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>>> · Like<https://www.facebook.com/jonobacon/posts/10151532662746458?notif_t=comment_mention#>
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>>> Phill Whiteside <https://www.facebook.com/phill.whiteside> Jono
>>> Bacon <https://www.facebook.com/jonobacon> which, if you appreciate,
>>> does not help me, or other team leaders, for quality / testing side to have
>>> things done. People will just walk away if they feel their work is is in
>>> vain. I'm sorry to nag, but I spent a lot of time getting the testing team
>>> together & your answer is simply not good enough for me to keep them on
>>> board.
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>>>
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>>> Phill Whiteside <https://www.facebook.com/phill.whiteside> It is
>>> not too hard... will 13.04 happen?
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>>> Jono Bacon <https://www.facebook.com/jonobacon> Phill Whiteside<http://www.facebook.com/phill.whiteside> well,
>>> sorry you are dissatisfied, but it is what it is - significant changes in
>>> community development and release processes take time to discuss and
>>> finalize as a community. You will just have to wait. And with this, I am
>>> going to wrap up this discussion. Take care!
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>>> Phill Whiteside <https://www.facebook.com/phill.whiteside> and you.
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>>> · Like<https://www.facebook.com/jonobacon/posts/10151532662746458?notif_t=comment_mention#>
>>> -
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>> Well, I'm going to cease testing and await the announcement, QA is no
>> longer a part of the discussion.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Phill.
>>
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