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Message #01926
Re: Over Size iso's
Hi wxl,
well, we didn't get a beta 1 PPC alternate out and I've just been told that
PPC Desktop is oversized.
Not the end of the world, as we are only at beta 1, but it does flag up
that this issue is not going any where on its own and needs a concerted
'pull' by the PPC testers to see what we can get sorted out before beta 2
lands.
regards,
Phill.
On 3 February 2013 19:32, ∅ <carsrcoffins23@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Well I can't make that much of a comment based on such little info but if
> you mess with our video drivers it will be the death of PPC ;-)
>
> I would like no know more about this new kernel format as well as the new
> binaries. Honestly I'm more concerned (maybe excited) about the effect of
> these than oversized isos.
>
> My feeling is that right now we have a lot of G3 users. These early
> machines are the ones that will be most affected by large images whereas
> newer machines can handle DVDs.
>
> On the other hand, those machines are best taken care of through an
> alternate install so as long as those are ok we should be fine.
>
> At this point I would strongly advocate only having the alternate. I would
> love to provide a live CD for people to test with, but between wireless and
> video, and the fact we have limited resources to ensure it works right,
> expecting desktop to work for most people is an unreasonable expectation.
>
> When I first started looking for Linux for my Mac, I looked specifically
> for live CDs because I wasn't ready to commit without knowing it would
> work. I can't imagine I'm the only one that felt that way. Us PPC users
> know that we are pretty unsupported, even by Apple. However, if we can make
> alternate really work well, even if it is through documentation, I think it
> will put people's minds at ease.
>
> That's my 2¢.
> wxl
> On Feb 3, 2013 9:17 AM, "Phill Whiteside" <PhillW@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I think that until a fix is found, removing some things from the PPC iso
>> is the least worst choice, as some PPC machines really do not like booting
>> from USB.
>>
>> Walter, I'd appreciate your and the other PPC testers view on this.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Phill.
>>
>> On 3 February 2013 07:51, Julien Lavergne <gilir@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Le 01/25/2013 04:27 AM, Phill Whiteside a écrit :
>>>
>>> The Desktop [1] shows as over sized. Would you be so kind as to put it
>>>> on a diet and have it slimmed down :)
>>>>
>>> I didn't forget you :-)
>>>
>>> Currently, I think it's a bug somewhere between the way the desktop ISO
>>> is done, and the new "format" of powerpc kernel (there several new binaries
>>> since 13.04), since alternate is not affected. I need to raise and document
>>> a bug about it.
>>>
>>> In the meantime, I can cut-off some applications not essential to reduce
>>> the size of the ISO. But it will also remove by default those applications
>>> for all installations (not only the desktop ISO).
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Julien Lavergne
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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