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[Nicholas Skaggs <nicholas.skaggs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

This is relevant here perhaps:

https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2013-March/002262.html

The upgrade tests are intended to test the previous (stable) release to 
the current (dev) release. As xnox noted the ability to upgrade in-place 
for a dev version exists, but imho we don't want to test or support such 
a thing. The supported path is from stable to stable, via lts to lts or 
previous to next stable. If your running the development version like we 
all do :-), images are important to test to ensure installation happen 
properly and the installer is working correctly. Obviously we don't want 
in-cycle upgrade issues, but if they exist, they will only affect the 
testing users (if we went rolling, this would all be different/matter 
:-) ). As such, in-cycle upgrades aren't an issue for a final release -- 
we want to ensure the previous->current upgrade path works well. In 
other words, for all intents and purposes, it doesn't matter if the Jan 
18th iso install clean upgrades with today's iso or not -- so long as 
quantal does so :-) Note that of course, it matters to some of us brave 
development release users, but I'm speaking for the majority of folks 
who run stable ;-).

Make sense?


Nicholas

On 04/17/2013 04:06 PM, Lance wrote:
> Major change if I'm reading this right:
>
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1101073/comments/3
>
> "for the final released 13.04 image and installs of 13.04, it should not offer any "upgrade" options. 13.04 released final image should only offer upgrades for 12.10 installations and older.
>
> At the moment this is the desired design and expectation."
>
> So maybe that upgrade test should be removed altogether???
>
> Lance
>
> --- On Tue, 4/16/13, Lance <lbsolost@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > From: Lance <lbsolost@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-qa] New upgrade test - via live image
> > To: "Nicholas Skaggs" <nicholas.skaggs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, lubuntu-qa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Date: Tuesday, April 16, 2013, 9:57 PM
> > Just thought to add;
> >
> > If we move it to the desktop image testing it should
> > possibly be "optional" rather than "mandatory".
> >
> > But my original point, which I did a poor job of explaining,
> > is that upgrading via the live image is very much dependent
> > on the date the image was produced rather than a "weekly"
> > cycle :^)
> >
> > Lance
> >
> > --- On Tue, 4/16/13, Lance <lbsolost@xxxxxxxxx>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > From: Lance <lbsolost@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > Subject: [Lubuntu-qa] New upgrade test - via live
> > image
> > > To: "Nicholas Skaggs" <nicholas.skaggs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
> > lubuntu-qa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Date: Tuesday, April 16, 2013, 9:41 PM
> > > Just to catch everyone up on the
> > > basics; beginning with Maverick ubiquity began offering
> > an
> > > upgrade path that's quite different than both the
> > standard
> > > upgrade via the update-mangler or via the alternate
> > image.
> > > Basically, based on my own experience, this option will
> > only
> > > be offered if you have only one Ubuntu based distro
> > > installed. So if you're multi-booting two or more
> > Ubuntu
> > > based distros (like Xubuntu and Lubuntu) you'll never
> > see
> > > it, but I have still seen the option if I'm
> > dual-booting
> > > with either Windows or Fedora.
> > >
> > > Anyway if you look at Upgrade Lubuntu on the QA
> > Tracker
> > > you'll now see two tests:
> > >
> > > http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/243/builds/41978/testcases
> > >
> > > The one that's called "Upgrade (image)" is the one I'm
> > > talking about ;^)
> > >
> > > So what's the problem?
> > >
> > > Well, having it lumped into standard upgrade testing
> > you
> > > first see this page where it says, "This build is valid
> > for
> > > a week, starting on 2013/04/12 at 21:00 UTC and
> > finishing on
> > > 2013/04/19 at 21:00 UTC.":
> > >
> > > http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/243/builds/41978/testcases/1498/results
> > >
> > > You can of course read more on the testcase specific
> > page:
> > > http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/testcases/1498/info
> > >
> > > So I'm thinking that this live-image upgrade test
> > should
> > > actually be moved from the "Upgrade Lubuntu" section to
> > the
> > > Desktop images tests ............ but I'm just thinking
> > out
> > > loud ATM.
> > >
> > > That's why I'm not filing a bug against the tracker, I
> > felt
> > > it best to have an open discussion before doing so.
> > > Particularly since this is something rather new to
> > most
> > > testers.
> > >
> > > Lance
> > >
> > >
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