From: Nicholas Skaggs <nicholas.skaggs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-qa] New upgrade test - via live image
To: "Lance" <lbsolost@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: lubuntu-qa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Wednesday, April 17, 2013, 4:20 PM
This is relevant here perhaps:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2013-March/002262.html
The upgrade tests are intended to test the previous (stable)
release to
the current (dev) release. As xnox noted the ability to
upgrade in-place
for a dev version exists, but imho we don't want to test or
support such
a thing. The supported path is from stable to stable, via
lts to lts or
previous to next stable. If your running the development
version like we
all do :-), images are important to test to ensure
installation happen
properly and the installer is working correctly. Obviously
we don't want
in-cycle upgrade issues, but if they exist, they will only
affect the
testing users (if we went rolling, this would all be
different/matter
:-) ). As such, in-cycle upgrades aren't an issue for a
final release --
we want to ensure the previous->current upgrade path
works well. In
other words, for all intents and purposes, it doesn't matter
if the Jan
18th iso install clean upgrades with today's iso or not --
so long as
quantal does so :-) Note that of course, it matters to some
of us brave
development release users, but I'm speaking for the majority
of folks
who run stable ;-).
Make sense?
Nicholas
On 04/17/2013 04:06 PM, Lance wrote:
Major change if I'm reading this right:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1101073/comments/3
"for the final released 13.04 image and installs of
13.04, it should not offer any "upgrade" options. 13.04
released final image should only offer upgrades for 12.10
installations and older.
At the moment this is the desired design and
expectation."
So maybe that upgrade test should be removed
altogether???
Lance
--- On Tue, 4/16/13, Lance <lbsolost@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
From: Lance <lbsolost@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-qa] New upgrade test - via
live image
To: "Nicholas Skaggs" <nicholas.skaggs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
lubuntu-qa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Tuesday, April 16, 2013, 9:57 PM
Just thought to add;
If we move it to the desktop image testing it
should
possibly be "optional" rather than "mandatory".
But my original point, which I did a poor job of
explaining,
is that upgrading via the live image is very much
dependent
on the date the image was produced rather than a
"weekly"
cycle :^)
Lance
--- On Tue, 4/16/13, Lance <lbsolost@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
From: Lance <lbsolost@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [Lubuntu-qa] New upgrade test - via
live
image
To: "Nicholas Skaggs" <nicholas.skaggs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
lubuntu-qa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Tuesday, April 16, 2013, 9:41 PM
Just to catch everyone up on the
basics; beginning with Maverick ubiquity began
offering
an
upgrade path that's quite different than both
the
standard
upgrade via the update-mangler or via the
alternate
image.
Basically, based on my own experience, this
option will
only
be offered if you have only one Ubuntu based
distro
installed. So if you're multi-booting two or
more
Ubuntu
based distros (like Xubuntu and Lubuntu) you'll
never
see
it, but I have still seen the option if I'm
dual-booting
with either Windows or Fedora.
Anyway if you look at Upgrade Lubuntu on the
QA
Tracker
you'll now see two tests:
http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/243/builds/41978/testcases
The one that's called "Upgrade (image)" is the
one I'm
talking about ;^)
So what's the problem?
Well, having it lumped into standard upgrade
testing
you
first see this page where it says, "This build
is valid
for
a week, starting on 2013/04/12 at 21:00 UTC
and
finishing on
2013/04/19 at 21:00 UTC.":
http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/243/builds/41978/testcases/1498/results
You can of course read more on the testcase
specific
page:
http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/testcases/1498/info
So I'm thinking that this live-image upgrade
test
should
actually be moved from the "Upgrade Lubuntu"
section to
the
Desktop images tests ............ but I'm just
thinking
out
loud ATM.
That's why I'm not filing a bug against the
tracker, I
felt
it best to have an open discussion before doing
so.
Particularly since this is something rather new
to
most
testers.
Lance
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