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[Nio Wiklund <nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hi again,

Now I know that an installed Lubuntu 13.04 with a pae kernel, that works
with my Pentium M, cannot handle kernel upgrades without fake-pae.

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1175855

But after installation of fake-pae, I could upgrade the kernel with sudo
apt-get upgrade. So it is not only at the installation, that the pae
flag is checked.

Best regards
Nio

On 2013-05-03 02:40, Phill Whiteside wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> having a wiki page is the fasted way to me. knowing Mörgaes also helps.
> Do keep us updated as to where this community re-spin goes. 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Phill.
> 
> On 3 May 2013 00:54, Nio Wiklund <nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> 
>     Hi Phill,
> 
>     1. I want to make you aware of the wiki page, that was edited today by
>     Mörgaes to avoid doing the job twice
> 
>     https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PAE
> 
>     So maybe you can have a shorter text and refer to that page for the
>     details.
> 
>     2. Now, that I know it that an installed Lubuntu 13.04 with a pae kernel
>     works with my Pentium M, I am testing another option, that might be more
>     flexible: a USB drive with grub2 and the Lubuntu iso file as a file to
>     be loop-mounted. It has no fake-pae at all. I don't know how it can
>     handle kernel upgrades yet.
> 
>     Best regards
>     Nio
> 
>     On 2013-05-02 22:14, Phill Whiteside wrote:
>     > Hi Nio, Julien et. all.
>     >
>     > we have in the past mentioned community re-spins of lubuntu and
>     when you
>     > are happy with the README, I am happy to host the iso and see no
>     reason
>     > not to include a mention of both the use of fake-pae and of a 13.04
>     > community re-spin so that people do not need to use fake-pae. The
>     thing
>     > about linix is 'choice', give people the choice and let them
>     decide. Use
>     > fake-pae if they already have an install of 12.04 that they want
>     to run
>     > through two dist-upgrades and the non-pae 13.04 for those who are
>     > installing for the 1st time. I see this as a "win - win" situation.
>     >
>     > Regards,
>     >
>     > Phill.
>     >
>     > On 2 May 2013 04:19, Nio Wiklund <nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx
>     <mailto:nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx>
>     > <mailto:nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx>>> wrote:
>     >
>     >     [feedback]
>     >
>     >     Hi Julien and Phill,
>     >
>     >
>     >     I think Lubuntu 13.04 'Raring' for Pentium M CPUs is a good
>     alternative
>     >     for a fresh install (instead of downloading 12.04 and
>     upgrading twice to
>     >     newer releases).
>     >
>     >     I'm receiving feedback from a few people right now, and I have to
>     >     improve the instructions in the README file, maybe also change the
>     >     concept of it to make it easier to understand and manage,
>     since it is
>     >     different from the standard way of distributing software.
>     >
>     >          -o-
>     >
>     >     But for those who have
>     >
>     >     - more or less personalized versions of Lubuntu 12.04 running, or
>     >     - already have a Lubuntu 12.04 iso file and a slow internet
>     connection
>     >
>     >     the fake-pae method is good for upgrading to new pae releases,
>     so yes,
>     >     it should be mentioned on the wiki.
>     >
>     >          -o-
>     >
>     >     Background
>     >
>     >     The Pentium M CPUs are a special case. They have pae
>     capability, but do
>     >     not announce the pae flag. So they fall between the chairs.
>     With the
>     >     fake-pae trick, introduced by 7bit @ ubuntuforums, it is
>     possible to
>     >     upgrade. There are many high-quality professional laptops
>     around with
>     >     Pentium M processors.
>     >
>     >     And, I have a Raring installation on a USB 3 pendrive, that runs
>     >     beautifully on my old Thinkpad with Pentium M without the pae
>     flag.
>     >     So the fake-pae flag helps it sit on the pae chair.
>     >
>     >     This is what I am willing to offer to other Pentium M owners.
>     >
>     >
>     >     Best regards
>     >     Nio
>     >
>     >
>     >     On 2013-05-01 12:55, Julien Lavergne wrote:
>     >     > Why not just add a mention on the wiki to use fake-pae for
>     people in
>     >     > this case ? It seems less complicated that downloading a
>     full version
>     >     > of Lubuntu just for this.
>     >     > If you are blocked by the upgrade tool, just advertise the
>     use of
>     >     > "apt-get dist-upgrade".
>     >     >
>     >     > Regards,
>     >     > Julien Lavergne
>     >     >
>     >     > 2013/4/30 Phill Whiteside <PhillW@xxxxxxxxxx
>     <mailto:PhillW@xxxxxxxxxx>
>     >     <mailto:PhillW@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:PhillW@xxxxxxxxxx>>>:
>     >     >> Hi Nio,
>     >     >>
>     >     >> I'm okay with hosting it[1]. But you will need to write up some
>     >     >> documentation, name it etc.
>     >     >>
>     >     >> Regards,
>     >     >>
>     >     >> Phill.
>     >     >> 1. http://phillw.net/isos/
>     >     >>
>     >     >> On 30 April 2013 20:41, Nio Wiklund <nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx
>     <mailto:nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx>
>     >     <mailto:nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx>>>
>     wrote:
>     >     >>>
>     >     >>> Hello everybody,
>     >     >>>
>     >     >>> I think it will be hard to make the devs accept the small
>     fix in the
>     >     >>> general code of *ubuntu to make it possible to install into a
>     >     computer
>     >     >>> with Pentium M CPU. But it works with a system, that is
>     >     installed in a
>     >     >>> modern computer, and ported to the Pentium M as a USB drive or
>     >     cloned or
>     >     >>> rsynced to an internal hard disk drive.
>     >     >>>
>     >     >>> I have such a system ready for distribution, but have a
>     few requests
>     >     >>> before it can be uploaded and available for everybody.
>     >     >>>
>     >     >>> 1. Please read the attached README file and suggest
>     changes (remove,
>     >     >>> change or add text)!
>     >     >>>
>     >     >>> 2. Please suggest where to upload it! The size is 1.1 GB.
>     >     >>>
>     >     >>> sudodus@ssd-grund ~/test/pae4pm $ ls -lh
>     >     >>> totalt 1,1G
>     >     >>> -rw-rw-r-- 1 olle olle 3,0K apr 30 14:24
>     commands-and-output.txt
>     >     >>> -rw-r--r-- 1 olle olle   56 apr 30 16:43 dd-restore.txt
>     >     >>> -rw-r--r-- 1 olle olle 1,1G apr 30 20:09 dd-sdb.gz
>     >     >>> -rw-r--r-- 1 olle olle  630 apr 30 14:55 dd-sdb.txt
>     >     >>> -rw-rw-r-- 1 olle olle  283 apr 30 20:47 md5sums.txt
>     >     >>> -rw-rw-r-- 1 olle olle 4,0K apr 30 20:45 README
>     >     >>> sudodus@ssd-grund ~/test/pae4pm
>     >     >>>
>     >     >>> I can upload it at a private cloud service, but I think it is
>     >     better if
>     >     >>> you suggest some other place with better bandwidth.
>     >     >>>
>     >     >>> 3. I guess the best thing would be if you can organize a
>     torrent (I
>     >     >>> don't know how to do that).
>     >     >>>
>     >     >>> Best regards
>     >     >>> Nio
>     >     >>>
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