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[Phill Whiteside <PhillW@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Nio,

the BIG change with Saucy is the recent inclusion of ZRam, it is for this
reason we are re-testing "how low can it go" :)

Regards,

Phill.

On 17 June 2013 02:13, Nio Wiklund <nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> With all respect to your skill as a tester, Ali, I have to ask:
>
> 1. Has the GUI installer of Saucy improved a lot compared to Raring?
>
> 2. Or was I doing something seriously wrong?
>
> Because I could not install Lubuntu Raring 32-bit without swap, not even
> with the alternate installer, with 256MB RAM. I did it in VirtualBox in
> a Precise 32-bit host.
>
> I'll test it tomorrow in Saucy and switch off the memory hogs in
> VirtualBox. I will also try to test low RAM in a real computer :-)
>
> Best regards
> Nio
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: memory needed for Lubuntu tested with vbox
> Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 20:12:18 +0200
> From: Nio Wiklund <nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: ubuntu-quality@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <ubuntu-quality@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
> Lubuntu-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> I want to share these results from testing to install and run Lubuntu
> with low memory. I was using today's daily build of Lubuntu Raring
> desktop and alternate iso files.
>
> See the attached file. Comments are welcome :-)
>
> Best regards
> Nio alias sudodus
> ----------------------------------
>
> On 2013-06-17 02:06, Phill Whiteside wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> >  Ali, firstly thank you for all the work you put in for the minimal
> > specs of what lubuntu will install on. To everyone else working on this,
> > also a big thank you.
> >
> > For our minimal specs, once we get to 256MB RAM, we are also stretching
> > the applications (browser).
> >
> > @ Jluien, if Z-Ram works so well, could we drop alternate for some of
> > the archs?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Phill.
> >
> >
> > On 17 June 2013 00:45, Ali Linx (amjjawad) <amjjawad@xxxxxxxxx
> > <mailto:amjjawad@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> >
> >     Hi everyone,
> >
> >     *_My Test - Part 1_*
> >     *Note* These Tests have been done on Oracle VM version 4.2.12
> >     running on Windows 7 on HP Pavilion DV6, Core i5 first generation
> >     and 4GB RAM.
> >
> >     *_Test Case A_*
> >
> >     _Hardware Details:
> >     _
> >     CPU: 1 CPU
> >     RAM Used by the OS: 256MB
> >     HDD: 5GB
> >
> >     _Scenario: _
> >     This is to simulate when the user has 256MB Physical RAM and a
> >     dedicated Graphics Card that does not steal/share its memory with
> >     the RAM. So, the OS will use the whole RAM which is 256MB.
> >
> >     _Installation:_
> >
> >      1. Mounted the Saucy ISO on the VM
> >      2. Chose "Install Lubuntu" from the Menu
> >      3. Chose "Erase Disk and Install Lubuntu"
> >      4. Installation Process took around 16mins
> >      5. VM Rebooted
> >      6. System is up and running
> >
> >     _Notes:_
> >
> >      1. I have installed on completely wiped/free HDD. NO partitions
> >         whatsoever. NO other system. Nothing.
> >      2. The installation Process was really smooth and without any
> >         problem, it worked and finished from the first try.
> >      3. I have followed the same steps but choosing "Try Lubuntu without
> >         installation" and then installed Lubuntu from the the Live
> >         Desktop by clicking the icon on the Desktop "Install Lubuntu
> >         13.10" and the installation process took around 15mins-16mins as
> >         well but I felt the process is slower than before. Moving the
> >         mouse for example wasn't as smooth as the first test - when
> >         choosing "Install Lubuntu" from the menu.
> >      4. After the installation, and for both methods (Install Lubuntu
> >         and Try Lubuntu without installation then install from the live
> >         desktop), the RAM Usage according to 'htop':
> >
> >     RAM: 98MB/256MB
> >     SWAP: 1MB/482MB
> >
> >     Firefox and LXTerminal with htop and it says: 153MB RAM and 7MB SWAP
> >     on www.google.com <http://www.google.com/> and I don't feel like
> >     having only 256MB at all.
> >     Did not play more. Was just testing how Firefox will behave.
> >
> >     = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
> >     = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
> >     *_
> >     _*
> >     *_Test Case B_*
> >
> >     _Hardware Details:
> >     _
> >     CPU: 1 CPU
> >     Base Memory: 256MB
> >     Video Memory: 32MB
> >     Used Memory by the OS: 224MB
> >     HDD: 5GB
> >
> >     _Scenario: _
> >     To simulate the situation when the user has 256MB Physical RAM and
> >     32MB of that RAM will be used by the built-in Graphics Card.
> >
> >     _Installation:_
> >
> >      1. Mounted the Saucy ISO on the VM
> >      2. Chose "Install Lubuntu" from the Menu
> >      3. Chose "Erase Disk and Install Lubuntu"
> >      4. Installation Process took around 16mins
> >      5. VM Rebooted
> >      6. System is up and running
> >
> >
> >     _Notes:_
> >
> >      1. I have installed on completely wiped/free HDD. NO partitions
> >         whatsoever. NO other system. Nothing.
> >      2. Installation Process was a bit slow and it was installed
> >         successfully from the first try. Not very slow, but slow or a
> >         bit slow. I guess it depends from machine to machine.
> >      3. Graphics Memory after installation was done is reporting,
> >         according to 'htop', 242MB Used RAM by OS which means only 14MB
> >         is being used by the graphics and I guess it depends on the
> >         color and resolution so the system needs 14MB for video card.
> >         After all, it is called 'Shared Memory' and the video card does
> >         not really has to use it all :)
> >      4. I didn't try to the other option - "Try Lubuntu without
> >         installation". I can tell the result would be the same. But I
> >         don't mind, if really really necessary, to do that.
> >
> >
> >     = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
> >     = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
> >
> >     *_Test Case C_*
> >
> >     _Hardware Details:
> >     _
> >     CPU: 1 CPU
> >     Used Memory by the OS: 192MB
> >     HDD: 5GB
> >
> >     _Scenario: _
> >     To simulate the situation when the user has only 192MB Physical RAM
> >     and a dedicated Graphics Card that does not steal/share its memory
> >     with the RAM. So, the OS will use the whole RAM which is 192MB.
> >
> >
> >     _Installation:_
> >
> >      1. Mounted the Saucy ISO on the VM
> >      2. Chose "Install Lubuntu" from the Menu
> >      3. Chose "Erase Disk and Install Lubuntu"
> >      4. Installation Process took around 20mins or a bit more.
> >      5. VM Rebooted
> >      6. System is up and running
> >
> >     _
> >     _
> >     _Notes:_
> >
> >      1. I have installed on completely wiped/free HDD. NO partitions
> >         whatsoever. NO other system. Nothing.
> >      2. I had to do 3 tries until the 3rd one got passed. The first two
> >         tries, the installer crashed and dropped me to the Live Desktop
> >         with the icon to install Lubuntu sitting there :)
> >      3. The installation process was slow but usable.
> >      4. When I tried to repeat using "Try Lubuntu without installation"
> >         and then install Lubuntu from the the Live Desktop by clicking
> >         the icon on the Desktop "Install Lubuntu 13.10", at the first
> >         few steps, the installer crashed and it logged me off the Live
> >         Desktop and took me to LightDM and only one username to login to
> >         which is "other".
> >
> >
> >     = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
> >     = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
> >
> >     *_Test Case D_*
> >     *_
> >     _*
> >     _Hardware Details:
> >     _
> >     CPU: 1 CPU
> >     Used Memory by the OS: 128MB
> >     HDD: 5GB
> >     *_
> >     _*
> >     _Notes:_
> >
> >      1. The installer crashed and dropped me to the Live Desktop with
> >         the icon to install Lubuntu sitting there :)
> >      2. When I tried to install from the Live Desktop, it crashed and
> >         dropped me to LightDM.
> >
> >
> >     = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
> >     = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
> >
> >     End of Testing for today :)
> >
> >     *_Conclusion_*:
> >     We must understand the difference between the minimum system
> >     requirement to*_'install'_* Lubuntu ... and ... the minimum system
> >     requirement to *_'use'_* Lubuntu *_'after'_* installing it. IMHO :)
> >
> >     My above 4 test cases were about the minimum system requirement to
> >     'install' Lubuntu.
> >     After all, the usage of the system purely depends on the user. If he
> >     is a light user, the system won't be so demanding at all.
> >     If he is a heavy user, that is totally different story.
> >
> >     So, IMHO, we should be clear about this point.
> >
> >
> >     *_Recommendation:_*
> >     Long story short, I do recommend that:
> >     *The Minimum System Requirement to Install Lubuntu 13.10 from The
> >     LiveCD using the Desktop ISO, is ... _256MB_ Physical RAM.*
> >
> >
> >     *_Next Step:_*
> >     I have moved houses so all my stuff are packed. I need to take my
> >     old test PC from the store, find my keyboard and try to play with it
> >     and repeat the above tests (not all of them).
> >     What so special about that PC is:
> >     It has 512MB Physical RAM and its BIOS has a feature to share
> >     32MB-256MB for the built in video card. So, I can test down to 256MB
> >     RAM.
> >     I can not go below that. But, after all, from what I've found so
> >     far, it is useless to go below that as long as the above
> >     recommendation says it all :)
> >
> >     Thanks for reading my report!
> >
> >     End of report.
> >
> >     --
> >
> >     "All of us are smarter than any one of us."
> >
> >     *Best Regards,*
> >     *amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/>*
> >     *Start Ubuntu
> >     <
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/CommunicationsTeam/WOWLubuntu/StartUbuntu
> >*
> >
> >     /Test Machine: ASUS F3F Laptop - //Intel Core Duo T2350 @ 1.86GHz
> >     with 489MB RAM/
> >
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