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Message #02832
[Test Report 2] Minimum RAM required to install 'saucy-desktop-i386.iso' from LiveCD
Hi again,
This is my 2nd Test Report :D
One of the best tests in my whole life!
*Information:*
- Test for: saucy-desktop-i386.iso
- Daily build: 17-June-2013
- Media: LiveCD
- Burned: using Xfburn at 10x Speed
- Tested on: Real Hardware
*Machine Hardware Details:*
- Desktop Computer
- Intel Motherboard
- CPU: Hyper Threading 64-bit Intel Pentium 4 @3.06GHz
- Cache: L1: 16KB - L2: 1MB
- RAM: DIMM DDR 200 MHz 512MB
- Graphics: Radeon Xpress 200 Host Bridge (built-in)
- HDD1: Seagate IDE 80GB - *Disabled/Not used*
- HDD2: Samsung IDE 20GB - *Wiped and has no partitons at all*
- CD/DVD Drive
- *From BIOS*: http://i44.tinypic.com/a4ug5s.jpg
*Test Case A - 242MB RAM*
*
*
*Information:*
- RAM used by the OS: 242MB only -- Onboard Video Memroy Size = 256MB [
http://i44.tinypic.com/a4ug5s.jpg]
- HDD: Samsung 20GB IDE wiped with no partitions at all
- Installation Media: LiveCD
- LiveCD Booting Menu: Selecting 'Install Lubuntu' From the LiveCD Boot
Menu
- Installation Type: 'Something Else' - I wanted to create two
partitions manually.
- Partitions: Two Partitions (Root and SWAP).
*
*
*Notes:*
- Installation Period (time): From Selecting 'Install Lubuntu' from the
Boot Menu until the last reboot at the end of the installation process, the
time period of this installation was 40 minutes.
- The installation Process was *'slow' *at the 7 steps of installation,
specially the Keyboard Layout Step and Who Are You Step but *usable*. It
was NOT very slow.
- On the very same machine, I have previously installed older releases
and I can tell for sure adding zRAM by default have doubled the speed.
Before, I was waiting for so long time until my mouse moves. Now, I need to
wait 1-3 seconds Maximum and only on the previous two steps I have
mentioned above.
- The installer never crashed during any step whatsoever - this is a one
try test.
*Results:*
- The installation has been done successfully - *100% PASS*
- Time Rating: *LONG* - *40 - 45 minutes* from the very beginning
(booting, menu, etc) to the very end (taking the LiveCD out and reboot).
- Slowness Rating: *SLOW but Usable* - IMHO, it was slow on two steps as
mentioned above and a bit slow on the other steps.
- zRAM Rating: *100% Helpful* - it was a very wise decision to add it.
zRAM has made a great noticeable difference.
*My Recommendation:*
- Overall Rating for this experience/test is *6.5/10*.
- *I do recommend to set the limit of 256MB RAM as the Minimum
RAMrequired to install Lubuntu 13.10 From the Desktop ISO using a
LiveCD.
*
- My Test is done on 242MB RAM, not 256MB and IMHO, the 14MB difference
could make a bit of improvement to the time (less than 40mins) but I *do
NOT* recommend to set the Minimum RAM required to install Lubuntu 13.10
to anything below 256MB. That should be the Red Line.
- 256MB is NOT going to be the recommended option for New Users, but
rather the Minimum. IMHO, we should mention clearly:
1. *Minimum* RAM required to install Lubuntu 13.10 is 256MB
2. *Recommended* RAM required to install Lubuntu 13.10 is 384MB - I will
explain later why :)
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= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
= = = =
*Test Case B - 368MB RAM*
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*Information:*
- RAM used by the OS: 368MB only -- Onboard Video Memroy Size = 128MB [
http://i44.tinypic.com/a4ug5s.jpg]
- HDD: Samsung 20GB IDE wiped with no partitions at all
- Installation Media: LiveCD
- LiveCD Booting Menu: Selecting 'Install Lubuntu' From the LiveCD Boot
Menu
- Installation Type: 'Something Else' - I wanted to create two
partitions manually.
- Partitions: Two Partitions (Root and SWAP).
*
*
*Notes:*
- Installation Period (time): From Selecting 'Install Lubuntu' from the
Boot Menu until the last reboot at the end of the installation process, the
time period of this installation was 25 minutes.
- The installation Process was *'normal' and 'smooth' but *slow on the
Keyboard Layout Step ONLY.
- Almost as twice as fast from Test Case A above.
- The installer never crashed during any step whatsoever - this is a one
try test. Was so smooth.
*Results:*
- The installation has been done successfully - *100% PASS*
- Time Rating: *NORMAL* - *25 minutes* from the very beginning (booting,
menu, etc) to the very end (taking the LiveCD out and reboot).
- Slowness Rating: *NORMAL* - I'm attracted to call it fast but that
might be exaggeration.
- zRAM Rating: *100% Helpful* - it was a very wise decision to add it.
zRAM has made a great noticeable difference. zRAM almost provide twice as
fast from Test Case A which means, obviously, the more RAM, the much better
performance.
*My Recommendation:*
- Overall Rating for this experience/test is *8/10*.
- *I do recommend to set the limit of 256MB RAM as the Minimum RAM required
to install Lubuntu 13.10 From the Desktop ISO using a LiveCD.*
- While 256MB is the Minimum RAM required to install Lubuntu 13.10, the
Recommended option, IMHO should be:
1. *Minimum* RAM required to install Lubuntu 13.10 is 256MB
2. *Recommended *RAM required to install Lubuntu 13.10 is 384MB - now,
you know why :)
*Conclusion/Summary*
1. Lubuntu 13.10 can be installed 'successfully' on 256MB of RAM *(and a
bit below but we are NOT going below 256MB)* from LiveCD without
problems, without crashes, etc.
2. The Minimum RAM Required to Install Lubuntu 13.10 from a LiveCD is
256MB.
3. The Recommended RAM to install Lubuntu 13.10 from a LiveCD is 384MB.
4. Adding zRAM was very very very helpful and it was a wise decision :)
Thank you so much for reading this report :)
P.S.
Imagine what could a LiveUSB do on the same above scenario ;)
--
"All of us are smarter than any one of us."
*Best Regards,*
*amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/>*
*Start Ubuntu<https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/CommunicationsTeam/WOWLubuntu/StartUbuntu>
*
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*Test Machine1: ASUS F3F Laptop - Intel Core Duo T2350 @ 1.86GHz with 489MB
RAM*
*Test Machine 2: Desktop - Intel P4 Hyper Threading (2 Logical CPUs) @3GHz
- 512MB DDR 200MHz RAM*
$ sudo lshw
description: Desktop Computer
product: PROD00000000
vendor: OEM00000
width: 32 bits
capabilities: smbios-2.3 dmi-2.3 smp-1.4 smp
configuration: boot=normal chassis=desktop cpus=1 uuid=7C53AF42-EEFF-11DA-B162-00E018EB0B67
*-core
description: Motherboard
product: D101GGC
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 0
version: AAD35788-308
serial: BTGC62102TUG
*-firmware
description: BIOS
vendor: Award BIOS for Intel
physical id: 0
version: GC11010N.86A.0311.2006.0420.1525
date: 04/20/2006
size: 128KiB
capacity: 448KiB
capabilities: isa pci pnp apm upgrade shadowing cdboot bootselect socketedrom edd int13floppy360 int13floppy1200 int13floppy720 int13floppy2880 int5printscreen int9keyboard int14serial int17printer int10video acpi usb agp ls120boot zipboot biosbootspecification
*-cpu:0
description: CPU
product: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.06GHz
vendor: Intel Corp.
physical id: 4
bus info: cpu@0
version: 15.4.9
serial: 0000-0F49-0000-0000-0000-0000
slot: Socket 775
size: 3066MHz
capacity: 3800MHz
width: 64 bits
clock: 133MHz
capabilities: boot fpu fpu_exception wp vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx x86-64 constant_tsc pebs bts pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl tm2 cid cx16 xtpr lahf_lm
configuration: id=0
*-cache:0
description: L1 cache
physical id: 9
slot: L1 Cache
size: 16KiB
capacity: 16KiB
capabilities: synchronous internal write-back data
*-cache:1
description: L2 cache
physical id: b
slot: L2 Cache
size: 1MiB
capacity: 1MiB
capabilities: synchronous internal write-back unified
*-logicalcpu:0
description: Logical CPU
physical id: 0.1
width: 64 bits
capabilities: logical
*-logicalcpu:1
description: Logical CPU
physical id: 0.2
width: 64 bits
capabilities: logical
*-cpu:1
description: CPU
product: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.06GHz
vendor: Intel Corp.
physical id: 5
bus info: cpu@1
version: 15.4.9
serial: 0000-0F49-0000-0000-0000-0000
slot: Socket 775
size: 3100MHz
width: 64 bits
capabilities: fpu fpu_exception wp vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx x86-64 constant_tsc pebs bts pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl tm2 cid cx16 xtpr lahf_lm
configuration: id=0
*-logicalcpu:0
description: Logical CPU
physical id: 0.1
width: 64 bits
capabilities: logical
*-logicalcpu:1
description: Logical CPU
physical id: 0.2
width: 64 bits
capabilities: logical
*-memory
description: System Memory
physical id: 32
slot: System board or motherboard
size: 512MiB
capacity: 1GiB
*-bank:0
description: DIMM [empty]
product: None
vendor: None
physical id: 0
serial: None
slot: A0
*-bank:1
description: DIMM DDR 200 MHz (5.0 ns)
product: None
vendor: None
physical id: 1
serial: None
slot: A1
size: 512MiB
width: 64 bits
clock: 200MHz (5.0ns)
*-pci
description: Host bridge
product: Radeon Xpress 200 Host Bridge
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
physical id: 100
bus info: pci@0000:00:00.0
version: 01
width: 64 bits
clock: 66MHz
configuration: latency=64
resources: memory:0-1fffffff
*-pci:0
description: PCI bridge
product: RS480 PCI Bridge
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
physical id: 1
bus info: pci@0000:00:01.0
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
capabilities: pci normal_decode bus_master cap_list
resources: ioport:e000(size=4096) memory:fde00000-fdefffff memory:d0000000-dfffffff
*-display
description: VGA compatible controller
product: RC410 [Radeon Xpress 200/1100]
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
physical id: 5
bus info: pci@0000:01:05.0
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
capabilities: pm msi vga_controller bus_master cap_list rom
configuration: driver=radeon latency=64 mingnt=8
resources: irq:17 memory:d0000000-dfffffff ioport:ee00(size=256) memory:fdef0000-fdefffff memory:fde00000-fde1ffff
*-ide:0
description: IDE interface
product: IXP SB400 Serial ATA Controller
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
physical id: 11
bus info: pci@0000:00:11.0
version: 80
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
capabilities: ide pm msi bus_master cap_list rom
configuration: driver=sata_sil latency=64
resources: irq:23 ioport:ff00(size=8) ioport:fe00(size=4) ioport:fd00(size=8) ioport:fc00(size=4) ioport:fb00(size=16) memory:fe02f000-fe02f1ff memory:fdf80000-fdffffff
*-ide:1
description: IDE interface
product: IXP SB400 Serial ATA Controller
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
physical id: 12
bus info: pci@0000:00:12.0
version: 80
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
capabilities: ide pm msi bus_master cap_list rom
configuration: driver=sata_sil latency=64
resources: irq:22 ioport:fa00(size=8) ioport:f900(size=4) ioport:f800(size=8) ioport:f700(size=4) ioport:f600(size=16) memory:fe02e000-fe02e1ff memory:10000000-1007ffff
*-usb:0
description: USB controller
product: IXP SB400 USB Host Controller
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
physical id: 13
bus info: pci@0000:00:13.0
version: 80
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
capabilities: msi ohci bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=ohci_hcd latency=64
resources: irq:19 memory:fe02d000-fe02dfff
*-usb:1
description: USB controller
product: IXP SB400 USB Host Controller
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
physical id: 13.1
bus info: pci@0000:00:13.1
version: 80
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
capabilities: msi ohci bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=ohci_hcd latency=64
resources: irq:19 memory:fe02c000-fe02cfff
*-usb:2
description: USB controller
product: IXP SB400 USB2 Host Controller
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
physical id: 13.2
bus info: pci@0000:00:13.2
version: 80
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
capabilities: pm msi ehci bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=ehci-pci latency=64
resources: irq:19 memory:fe02b000-fe02bfff
*-serial UNCLAIMED
description: SMBus
product: IXP SB400 SMBus Controller
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
physical id: 14
bus info: pci@0000:00:14.0
version: 82
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
configuration: latency=0
resources: ioport:b00(size=16) memory:fe02a000-fe02a3ff
*-ide:2
description: IDE interface
product: IXP SB400 IDE Controller
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
physical id: 14.1
bus info: pci@0000:00:14.1
version: 80
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
capabilities: ide msi bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=pata_atiixp latency=64
resources: irq:16 ioport:1f0(size=8) ioport:3f6 ioport:170(size=8) ioport:376 ioport:f400(size=16)
*-multimedia
description: Audio device
product: IXP SB4x0 High Definition Audio Controller
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
physical id: 14.2
bus info: pci@0000:00:14.2
version: 01
width: 64 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm msi bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=snd_hda_intel latency=64
resources: irq:16 memory:fe024000-fe027fff
*-isa
description: ISA bridge
product: IXP SB400 PCI-ISA Bridge
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
physical id: 14.3
bus info: pci@0000:00:14.3
version: 80
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
capabilities: isa bus_master
configuration: latency=0
*-pci:1
description: PCI bridge
product: IXP SB400 PCI-PCI Bridge
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
physical id: 14.4
bus info: pci@0000:00:14.4
version: 80
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
capabilities: pci subtractive_decode bus_master vga_palette
resources: ioport:d000(size=4096) memory:fdd00000-fddfffff memory:fdc00000-fdcfffff
*-network:0
description: Ethernet interface
product: RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+
vendor: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
physical id: 2
bus info: pci@0000:02:02.0
logical name: eth0
version: 10
serial: 00:16:76:85:ad:92
size: 10Mbit/s
capacity: 100Mbit/s
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm bus_master cap_list ethernet physical tp mii 10bt 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd autonegotiation
configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=8139too driverversion=0.9.28 duplex=half latency=64 link=no maxlatency=64 mingnt=32 multicast=yes port=MII speed=10Mbit/s
resources: irq:21 ioport:de00(size=256) memory:fddff000-fddff0ff
*-network:1
description: Wireless interface
product: RT2561/RT61 rev B 802.11g
vendor: Ralink corp.
physical id: 3
bus info: pci@0000:02:03.0
logical name: wlan0
version: 00
serial: 00:15:e9:47:1c:72
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm bus_master cap_list ethernet physical wireless
configuration: broadcast=yes driver=rt61pci driverversion=3.9.0-6-generic firmware=0.8 latency=64 link=no multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11bg
resources: irq:16 memory:fddf0000-fddf7fff
*-scsi:0
physical id: 1
logical name: scsi4
capabilities: emulated
*-disk
description: ATA Disk
product: ST3802110A
vendor: Seagate
physical id: 0.0.0
bus info: scsi@4:0.0.0
logical name: /dev/sda
version: 3.AA
serial: 5LR6RKT9
size: 74GiB (80GB)
capabilities: partitioned partitioned:dos
configuration: ansiversion=5 sectorsize=512 signature=000420be
*-volume:0
description: EXT4 volume
vendor: Linux
physical id: 1
bus info: scsi@4:0.0.0,1
logical name: /dev/sda1
version: 1.0
serial: 147f17dc-5faf-4667-bb66-14ebfd2481a2
size: 27GiB
capacity: 27GiB
capabilities: primary bootable journaled extended_attributes large_files huge_files dir_nlink recover extents ext4 ext2 initialized
configuration: created=2013-04-25 17:02:48 filesystem=ext4 lastmountpoint=/ modified=2013-04-25 17:34:36 mounted=2013-06-17 21:32:06 state=clean
*-volume:1
description: Linux swap / Solaris partition
physical id: 2
bus info: scsi@4:0.0.0,2
logical name: /dev/sda2
capacity: 1907MiB
capabilities: primary nofs
*-volume:2
description: Windows FAT volume
vendor: MSWIN4.1
physical id: 3
bus info: scsi@4:0.0.0,3
logical name: /dev/sda3
version: FAT32
serial: 810f-c506
size: 44GiB
capacity: 44GiB
capabilities: primary fat initialized
configuration: FATs=2 filesystem=fat
*-scsi:1
physical id: 2
logical name: scsi5
capabilities: emulated
*-cdrom
description: DVD reader
product: RW/DVD GCC-4522B
vendor: HL-DT-ST
physical id: 0.0.0
bus info: scsi@5:0.0.0
logical name: /dev/cdrom
logical name: /dev/sr0
version: 1.08
capabilities: removable audio cd-r cd-rw dvd
configuration: ansiversion=5 status=nodisc
*-disk
description: ATA Disk
product: SAMSUNG SV0221H
physical id: 0.1.0
bus info: scsi@5:0.1.0
logical name: /dev/sdb
version: SJ10
serial: 0511J1ET800751
size: 18GiB (20GB)
capabilities: partitioned partitioned:dos
configuration: ansiversion=5 sectorsize=512 signature=00073148
*-volume:0
description: Linux swap volume
physical id: 1
bus info: scsi@5:0.1.0,1
logical name: /dev/sdb1
version: 1
serial: 8279c4dd-55db-44ef-9112-49cfc0b5100a
size: 487MiB
capacity: 487MiB
capabilities: primary nofs swap initialized
configuration: filesystem=swap pagesize=4096
*-volume:1
description: EXT4 volume
vendor: Linux
physical id: 2
bus info: scsi@5:0.1.0,2
logical name: /dev/sdb2
logical name: /
version: 1.0
serial: d243fb95-daed-435c-b4e1-3e7c83fe69ab
size: 18GiB
capacity: 18GiB
capabilities: primary bootable journaled extended_attributes large_files huge_files dir_nlink recover extents ext4 ext2 initialized
configuration: created=2013-06-18 22:09:15 filesystem=ext4 lastmountpoint=/ modified=2013-06-18 23:22:11 mount.fstype=ext4 mount.options=rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro,data=ordered mounted=2013-06-18 23:22:11 state=mounted
*-network
description: Wireless interface
physical id: 1
bus info: usb@1:1
logical name: wlan1
serial: 00:1f:1f:a8:e5:21
capabilities: ethernet physical wireless
configuration: broadcast=yes driver=rt2800usb driverversion=3.9.0-6-generic firmware=0.29 ip=192.168.0.18 link=yes multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11bgn
============================================================================================================================================
$ lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Radeon Xpress 200 Host Bridge (rev 01)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RS480 PCI Bridge
00:11.0 IDE interface: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] IXP SB400 Serial ATA Controller (rev 80)
00:12.0 IDE interface: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] IXP SB400 Serial ATA Controller (rev 80)
00:13.0 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] IXP SB400 USB Host Controller (rev 80)
00:13.1 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] IXP SB400 USB Host Controller (rev 80)
00:13.2 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] IXP SB400 USB2 Host Controller (rev 80)
00:14.0 SMBus: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] IXP SB400 SMBus Controller (rev 82)
00:14.1 IDE interface: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] IXP SB400 IDE Controller (rev 80)
00:14.2 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] IXP SB4x0 High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
00:14.3 ISA bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] IXP SB400 PCI-ISA Bridge (rev 80)
00:14.4 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] IXP SB400 PCI-PCI Bridge (rev 80)
01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RC410 [Radeon Xpress 200/1100]
02:02.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
02:03.0 Network controller: Ralink corp. RT2561/RT61 rev B 802.11g
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