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[Nio Wiklund <nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx>]

Good luck!

I think the lubuntu-core image can be useful for other people.
And please report back, when you have results from 'grub-n-iso' :-)

I think 'grub-n-iso' will install, but if not (due to low RAM), consider
installing with the OBI, before or at the end of life of XP.

Best regards Nio

On 2013-11-02 22:04, Kadrija Hrlovic wrote:
> Thank you Nio and sorry for wasting your time.
> It must have take a lot of time and effort to create the image and
> upload it to the site.
> I hope there will be people who will use your lubuntu-core image.
> I've downloaded Lubuntu-13.10-desktop-grub-n-iso-n-swap.img.gz and will
> install it when I get my hands on an extra USB stick.
> I hope I will be able to install it since I've only got 512Mb of RAM.
> Cheers!
> 
> 
> On 2 November 2013 20:45, Nio Wiklund <nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> 
>     Hi Kadrija,
>     I will reply inline
>     Best regards
>     Nio
> 
>     On 2013-11-02 19:08, Kadrija Hrlovic wrote:
>     > Thank you very much Nio.
>     > I've just read OBI documentation and discovered to my horror that it
>     > cannot be used for dualboot system which is what I had in mind :(
> 
>     Well, not dual boot within the same drive, but it you have two drives it
>     is possible. So you can boot your Pentium M equipped computer from 'an
>     installed system' in a USB drive. A USB 2 pendrive is OK. A USB 3
>     pendrive or a USB 2 HDD are faster.
> 
>     And in April your XP will reach its end of life, and then you should not
>     take the risk and run it without security updates.
> 
>     > I don't want to get rid of Windows XP on my laptop.
>     > Is there any way of installing the latest Lubuntu without starting
>     from
>     > non-pae mini.iso 12.04?
> 
>     Yes. There are alternatives. I suggest that you try Lubuntu fake-PAE
>     'grub-n-iso', where grub helps you boot from the regular Lubuntu 13.10
>     iso file.
> 
>     See these links
> 
>     https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu-fake-PAE
>     https://help.ubuntu.com/community/grub-n-iso
> 
>     Good luck
>     Nio
> 
>     > On 2 November 2013 15:34, Nio Wiklund <nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx
>     <mailto:nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx>
>     > <mailto:nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx>>> wrote:
>     >
>     >     Hi, Kadrija,
>     >
>     >     It was fairly easy but not quite straight-forward to make a
>     Lubuntu Core
>     >     tarball from the Ubuntu 13.10 mini.iso. Please test it and let
>     us know
>     >     how it works for you :-)
>     >
>     >     I have uploaded a tarball with the following md5sum and name to
>     >     phillw.net <http://phillw.net> <http://phillw.net>
>     >
>     >     3d3064f982681bc1c78624d16062e6b9  tarballs/LubuntuCoreSaucy.tar.xz
>     >
>     >     There is fake-PAE. But in order to make the network portable I
>     also
>     >     installed 'network-manager' and tweaked it according to this link
>     >
>     >    
>     https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall#Unmanaged_Wired_Network
>     >
>     >     Best regards
>     >     Nio
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >     On 2013-11-02 09:47, Nio Wiklund wrote:
>     >     > That's good Kadrija,
>     >     >
>     >     > Now I know what to make:
>     >     >
>     >     > Lubuntu core with fake-pae.
>     >     >
>     >     > Best regards
>     >     > Nio
>     >     >
>     >     > On 2013-11-02 09:41, Kadrija Hrlovic wrote:
>     >     >> Hi Nio
>     >     >> I would prefer to have it just with fake-pae flag and no other
>     >     >> customisations if possible.
>     >     >> My laptop is dell latitude d505:
>     >     >>
>     >     >>          *-cpu
>     >     >>               description: CPU
>     >     >>               product: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1500MHz
>     >     >>               vendor: Intel Corp.
>     >     >>               physical id: 400
>     >     >>               bus info: cpu@0
>     >     >>               version: 6.9.5
>     >     >>               slot: Microprocessor
>     >     >>               size: 1500MHz
>     >     >>               capacity: 1800MHz
>     >     >>               width: 32 bits
>     >     >>               clock: 133MHz
>     >     >>               capabilities: fpu fpu_exception wp vme de pse tsc
>     >     msr mce
>     >     >>     cx8 mtrr pge mca cmov clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 tm
>     >     pbe up
>     >     >>     bts est tm2 cpufreq
>     >     >>
>     >     >> I'm sure it has pae but it is not listed in cpu-flags.
>     >     >> I'm currently running windows XP but I'm thinking of installing
>     >     Lubuntu
>     >     >> which it ran a year ago.
>     >     >>
>     >     >>
>     >     >> On 2 November 2013 09:00, Nio Wiklund
>     <nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx>
>     >     <mailto:nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx>>
>     >     >> <mailto:nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx
>     <mailto:nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx> <mailto:nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx
>     <mailto:nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx>>>> wrote:
>     >     >>
>     >     >>     Hi Kadrija,
>     >     >>
>     >     >>     I see. Yes I can make such a tarball and upload it.
>     >     >>
>     >     >>     How do you think such a tarball is most useful?  Would you
>     >     prefer to
>     >     >>     have it as pure as possible, even without fake-PAE? (It
>     will
>     >     boot and
>     >     >>     run, but you need to install fake-PAE in order to
>     upgrade the
>     >     kernel.)
>     >     >>
>     >     >>     -o-
>     >     >>
>     >     >>     Before trying a PAE kernel, check that the CPU has PAE
>     capability
>     >     >>     (Pentium M or Celeron M). Lubuntu 13.10 is not an
>     option for "pre
>     >     >>     Pentium II" CPUs without PAE capability.
>     >     >>
>     >     >>     Best regards
>     >     >>     Nio
>     >     >>
>     >     >>     On 2013-11-02 08:46, Kadrija Hrlovic wrote:
>     >     >>     > I meant it would be nice to have a tarball with
>     lubuntu-core
>     >     >>     instead of
>     >     >>     > the full lubuntu-desktop system.
>     >     >>     > I have a no-pae flag laptop and I prefer a minimal
>     >     lubuntu-core system
>     >     >>     > to which I can add things I need.
>     >     >>     >
>     >     >>     >
>     >     >>     > On 2 November 2013 05:27, Nio Wiklund
>     >     <nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx>
>     <mailto:nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx>>
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>     >     >>     >
>     >     >>     >     On 2013-11-01 17:28, Federico Leoni wrote:
>     >     >>     >     > Well, in theory yes.
>     >     >>     >     > You need to wait a reply from Nio if he can do that
>     >     or make it
>     >     >>     >     yourself.
>     >     >>     >     > Simply create your install with just what you need
>     >     and then
>     >     >>     start your
>     >     >>     >     > system with OBI usb and create the tarball from
>     the menu.
>     >     >>     Quite easy.
>     >     >>     >     >
>     >     >>     >     > F.
>     >     >>     >     >
>     >     >>     >     > Em 01/11/2013 13:29, "Kadrija Hrlovic"
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>     <mailto:kalehrl@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:kalehrl@xxxxxxxxx>>>>>> escreveu:
>     >     >>     >     >
>     >     >>     >     >     Is it possible to have OBI with just
>     lubuntu-core?
>     >     >>     >     >
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>     >     >>     >     Federico is right. You can do it yourself. But it
>     might be
>     >     >>     valuable for
>     >     >>     >     many people to have a tarball with lubuntu-core,
>     so I could
>     >     >>     make and
>     >     >>     >     upload one. Please decribe is more detail what
>     you want and
>     >     >>     need ...
>     >     >>     >
>     >     >>     >     Best regards
>     >     >>     >     Nio
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