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[Chris <cyber.druif@xxxxxxxxx>]

Aloha everyone,

First of all, Ali this is to correct you: icons can and are used on the
wiki. If you look at my personal page [
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MrChrisDruif] you'll notice I actually like
big flashy icons(!). The only problem is
that the icons themselves can't be clicked, but that isn't a big issue.

On the point of "guidelines" I haven't got an answer right now because I
received an post from the ubuntu-doc mailing-list which mentions something
about guidelines. So I'll respond to that post and hope to have an answer
on that asap!

On reasoning why the Lubuntu wiki is as it is right now is this:
I didn't join Lubuntu from the start (even if it seems like that to some)
and the ones before me didn't always make the right decisions. So when I
joined about a year ago the mess was pretty much the same as it is now. It
has become gradually better along the way, but not much because of personal
issues in the past year. I needed to find both time and, much more crucial,
motivation! So when I had both I accomplished much, but those times were
rare! Take for example the big move from the duplicate stuff on the wiki
pages which I did in one night.
On Apr 23, 2012 12:40 PM, "Ali Linx (amjjawad)" <amjjawad@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hello Karl,
>
> I'm not sure if I understood your email 100% but this is what "I think"
> about the point you highlighted. To be honest, I used to think like you
> before not too long and then, I realized that there is much easier way or
> approach. People/Users don't really have to find a Lubuntu's Link on
> help.ubuntu.com if they seek help or whatever, they need to type
> "lubuntu" on google and the 3rd result will be:
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu
>
> https://help.ubuntu.com/ << this page is, IMHO, very bad start for a
> beginner or new comer. It is not even an index and it should NOT be a
> homepage for Ubuntu Help but I have no idea how to fix that or where to
> suggest a better page?
>
> I used to be stuck there when I was new but then, I realized that I need
> to use Google to find whatever I need and indeed, that was the key that
> saved my time and gave me whatever I need.
>
> Your page that you attached is GREAT and I LIKE IT but IMHO, it is much
> better for a website than a Wiki Page. Icons on the Wiki Page might be not
> very good idea and I think Phill or Chris have better answer because I'm
> NOT a Wiki Expert, I just didn't see that style on any Wiki Page before. In
> fact, that itself could be a plus. I mean, it's good that we be unique and
> have our own but again, we are an Ubuntu Variant so I guess we need to
> stick to their style. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong :)
>
> IMHO, we need one, two or even three pages which will work as an index,
> just like LOST and these pages should appear on google search first page
> when you search for lubuntu or help lubuntu, etc. Each page will have ALL
> the important links.
> Why Three? say one is the Website, one is the Wiki and other is a blog, a
> facebook page or Ubuntu Forum thread.
>
> Our Website MUST have ALL the basic and important link, period. Our
> website must be the FIRST STEP that anyone will go through to download
> lubuntu, help, etc etc etc. Currently, we are focusing MORE on the Wiki
> which still not 100% organized but I'm sure Chris and everyone are doing
> their best to achieve that.
>
> The current website is confusing so I do hope the new one will fix that
> issue.
>
> If the homepage of our website will be something like the attached design
> then WOW, that is a GREAT idea and +1 from me in advance.
>
> This is my thoughts :)
>
> You are doing a great job so keep it up and let's work as a team in order
> to achieve what we are dreaming about ;)
>
> I'm ALL for you guys!
>
> On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 12:57 PM, Karl Anliot <kanliot@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> open the attachment.
>> This is what I had in mind to make the help.ubuntu.com (which is our
>> main support page) more friendly.
>>
>> the icons are open source.
>> what do i need to do to move to next stage?
>>
>> While I have your attention:
>> if you google 'help lubuntu'
>> 3rd result is this page:
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu
>>
>> I'd like to move/merge that page into the 'what is lubuntu'  (upper left)
>>
>> The idea is to clean up stuff so people know where to find the wiki
>> pages. That means keeping only developer pages on
>> wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu...  which someone had to tell me only 2 weeks
>> ago.  I forget who told me, but I honestly didn't know where the help
>> pages were.
>> **************
>> ok. just because I know I'm hard to follow and I jump over stuff I
>> have to explain
>>
>> 1.  the image is a follow up to the post on the lubuntu-desktop about
>> 5 days ago where I said I wanna organize the wiki.
>> 2.  organizing the wiki means keeping people from getting lost on the
>> wiki.ubuntu.com wiki.  if you don't understand what the
>> wiki.ubuntu.com wiki is, go there now, and see if you get to the
>> support page?  Most likely you can't get, let alone be expected to
>> find the help.ubuntu.com wiki if you land on the wiki.ubuntu.com wiki
>> first.  this is a problem. I'm not blaming anyone.
>>
>> p.s
>> I can't make people create/edit  the wiki pages, but we can make it
>> more rewarding and less scary for them to do so.
>>
>
>
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