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["Ali Linx (amjjawad)" <amjjawad@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Chris,

I know you can use icons, but what I meant is: I have never seen so far an
Official Wiki Page for Ubuntu or any other Variant with icons just like
Karl's Design.
Personal Pages are not official documentation pages :) it's your page that
talks about you and your achievements so you are free to design it and edit
it the way you like. But when it comes to Documentation Pages, I think one
needs to be more careful. I don't know but since I joined until now, I hear
people keep saying "we must stick to Ubuntu Style" so that is where the
idea came from :)
I don't mind to use icons but I'm not sure how to make that clickable so
when you click on one icon, it will open a link which is different than the
other one.
Example: When you Click "What is Lubuntu" that should open a link. When you
click "Get the iso", that should open another link, not the same as the
first one. How to do this? I have no idea, you are the Wiki Master now :D

On the point of "guidelines" I haven't got an answer right now because I
> received an post from the ubuntu-doc mailing-list which mentions something
> about guidelines. So I'll respond to that post and hope to have an answer
> on that asap!
>

What are you talking about here? O_o
Perhaps you are replying my other email about guidelines? that was
different email because I didn't talk about guidelines here! I'm confused :/

As for the mess, I know all that so you don't really have to explain much ;)
We need more members and I need time as well to get my hand dirty with Wiki
Pages. Dammit, I wish it's more than 24hours per day :/



On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 9:42 PM, Chris <cyber.druif@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Aloha everyone,
>
> First of all, Ali this is to correct you: icons can and are used on the
> wiki. If you look at my personal page [
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MrChrisDruif ] you'll notice I actually like big
> flashy icons(!). The only problem is that the icons themselves can't be
> clicked, but that isn't a big issue.
>
> On the point of "guidelines" I haven't got an answer right now because I
> received an post from the ubuntu-doc mailing-list which mentions something
> about guidelines. So I'll respond to that post and hope to have an answer
> on that asap!
>
> On reasoning why the Lubuntu wiki is as it is right now is this:
> I didn't join Lubuntu from the start (even if it seems like that to some)
> and the ones before me didn't always make the right decisions. So when I
> joined about a year ago the mess was pretty much the same as it is now. It
> has become gradually better along the way, but not much because of personal
> issues in the past year. I needed to find both time and, much more crucial,
> motivation! So when I had both I accomplished much, but those times were
> rare! Take for example the big move from the duplicate stuff on the wiki
> pages which I did in one night.
> On Apr 23, 2012 12:40 PM, "Ali Linx (amjjawad)" <amjjawad@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello Karl,
>>
>> I'm not sure if I understood your email 100% but this is what "I think"
>> about the point you highlighted. To be honest, I used to think like you
>> before not too long and then, I realized that there is much easier way or
>> approach. People/Users don't really have to find a Lubuntu's Link on
>> help.ubuntu.com if they seek help or whatever, they need to type
>> "lubuntu" on google and the 3rd result will be:
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu
>>
>> https://help.ubuntu.com/ << this page is, IMHO, very bad start for a
>> beginner or new comer. It is not even an index and it should NOT be a
>> homepage for Ubuntu Help but I have no idea how to fix that or where to
>> suggest a better page?
>>
>> I used to be stuck there when I was new but then, I realized that I need
>> to use Google to find whatever I need and indeed, that was the key that
>> saved my time and gave me whatever I need.
>>
>> Your page that you attached is GREAT and I LIKE IT but IMHO, it is much
>> better for a website than a Wiki Page. Icons on the Wiki Page might be not
>> very good idea and I think Phill or Chris have better answer because I'm
>> NOT a Wiki Expert, I just didn't see that style on any Wiki Page before. In
>> fact, that itself could be a plus. I mean, it's good that we be unique and
>> have our own but again, we are an Ubuntu Variant so I guess we need to
>> stick to their style. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong :)
>>
>> IMHO, we need one, two or even three pages which will work as an index,
>> just like LOST and these pages should appear on google search first page
>> when you search for lubuntu or help lubuntu, etc. Each page will have ALL
>> the important links.
>> Why Three? say one is the Website, one is the Wiki and other is a blog, a
>> facebook page or Ubuntu Forum thread.
>>
>> Our Website MUST have ALL the basic and important link, period. Our
>> website must be the FIRST STEP that anyone will go through to download
>> lubuntu, help, etc etc etc. Currently, we are focusing MORE on the Wiki
>> which still not 100% organized but I'm sure Chris and everyone are doing
>> their best to achieve that.
>>
>> The current website is confusing so I do hope the new one will fix that
>> issue.
>>
>> If the homepage of our website will be something like the attached design
>> then WOW, that is a GREAT idea and +1 from me in advance.
>>
>> This is my thoughts :)
>>
>> You are doing a great job so keep it up and let's work as a team in order
>> to achieve what we are dreaming about ;)
>>
>> I'm ALL for you guys!
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 12:57 PM, Karl Anliot <kanliot@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> open the attachment.
>>> This is what I had in mind to make the help.ubuntu.com (which is our
>>> main support page) more friendly.
>>>
>>> the icons are open source.
>>> what do i need to do to move to next stage?
>>>
>>> While I have your attention:
>>> if you google 'help lubuntu'
>>> 3rd result is this page:
>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu
>>>
>>> I'd like to move/merge that page into the 'what is lubuntu'  (upper left)
>>>
>>> The idea is to clean up stuff so people know where to find the wiki
>>> pages. That means keeping only developer pages on
>>> wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu...  which someone had to tell me only 2 weeks
>>> ago.  I forget who told me, but I honestly didn't know where the help
>>> pages were.
>>> **************
>>> ok. just because I know I'm hard to follow and I jump over stuff I
>>> have to explain
>>>
>>> 1.  the image is a follow up to the post on the lubuntu-desktop about
>>> 5 days ago where I said I wanna organize the wiki.
>>> 2.  organizing the wiki means keeping people from getting lost on the
>>> wiki.ubuntu.com wiki.  if you don't understand what the
>>> wiki.ubuntu.com wiki is, go there now, and see if you get to the
>>> support page?  Most likely you can't get, let alone be expected to
>>> find the help.ubuntu.com wiki if you land on the wiki.ubuntu.com wiki
>>> first.  this is a problem. I'm not blaming anyone.
>>>
>>> p.s
>>> I can't make people create/edit  the wiki pages, but we can make it
>>> more rewarding and less scary for them to do so.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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