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[Luciana Tricai Cavalini <lutricav@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hi all,

Using the zipped 2.0-final version to develop CCDs is causing us some
trouble. Because I made a wrong suggestion in February to paint in bold
and circle with a red rectangle the place where the CCD developers
should copy and paste structures.

That makes the whole CDD from this point on to be painted in bold and
circled with a red rectangle. It is visually confusing.

There is also a need for an floating Ontology Entry on the Ontology
sheet, in order to organize the entry of diverse names, lookup tables,
ontologies etc.

My suggestion is for us to make a deal that what's CDD 2.1 in
development will be called CDD 2.0 final and uploaded as a zip file. I
know that that may make some of us uncomfortable, because it sounds like
cheating, but IMO we are doing less harm doing that than having to edit
the Definition "value" to take off the bold and the red circle, and
copying and pasting the floating Ontology Entry from the CDD 2.1
everytime that we need to build a CCD. I think we should take the
opportunity when the community is small and everybody knows that all of
us have good intentions, in order to make those minor adjustments that
can save us a lot of unnecessary extra work.

Furthermore, at this point, we don't know how to model "demographic"
CCDs using the Entity package, because the clinical part of the MLHIM
specifications is very close to the openEHR specifications, but the
entity part of the MLHIM specifications is very departed from the
openEHR demographic RM.

I tried to model the Person CCD, following the related demographic
archetype, and I don't know how to insert the slot for Person Name.
Because the MLHIM Entity package doesn't have a class for Party
Identity. Does is go directly on the "name" attribute of the Person class?

And, from my point of view as a "domain expert", not a RM expert (which
means: not an expert), I don't understand why "date of birth" is an
attribute of the Person class instead of being a concept that we can
model like any other one in a CCD. Same thing to the taxonomic
attributes for the Non-Human class. What if the science changes? The
concept of "birth" is very polemic, even nowadays, and very
Western-centric, because for some cultures, there is no such a thing
like "birth". There are differente passage rituals to acknowledge a
member of the population as a Person.

In my modest opinion, it is necessary to keep MLHIM future and
culture-proof.

There is more to ask, but those things are essential in order to have
demographic CCDs starting to be developed.

Thank you,

Luciana.


Em 25/04/2011 21:59, Timothy Cook escreveu:
> This is not a bug.  The zip file is the current RELEASED version.  The ones
> in the trunk are the current DEVELOPMENT version.
> 
> You should be creating the CDD against the RELEASED version.  Then any bugs
> found in the schemas would be reported against the trunk so they can be
> corrected for the next release.
> 
> Make sense?
> 
> 
> On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 7:48 PM, Luciana Tricai Cavalini <
> 770599@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
>> Public bug reported:
>>
>> There is a zip file with schemas that are outdated compared to the
>> schemas that are in the trunk. I don't know to to upgrade them.
>>
>> ** Affects: mlhim-specs
>>     Importance: Medium
>>     Assignee: MLHIM Specifications Developers (mlhim-specs-dev)
>>         Status: New
>>
>> ** Changed in: mlhim-specs
>>   Importance: Undecided => Low
>>
>> ** Changed in: mlhim-specs
>>   Importance: Low => Medium
>>
>> ** Changed in: mlhim-specs
>>     Assignee: (unassigned) => MLHIM Specifications Developers
>> (mlhim-specs-dev)
>>
>> ** Changed in: mlhim-specs
>>    Milestone: None => 2.0.x
>>
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>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/770599
>>
>> Title:
>>  The zipped schemas don't match the schemas in the trunk
>>
>> Status in MLHIM Specifications:
>>  New
>>
>> Bug description:
>>  There is a zip file with schemas that are outdated compared to the
>>  schemas that are in the trunk. I don't know to to upgrade them.
>>
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