Re: [Ayatana] Getting rolling for 9.10

["Scott Kitterman" <ubuntu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

> Agreed,
> The same underlying layer of notification, passed then processed by a
> Plasma
> widget within Kubuntu environment.  Aspects of plasmoid are still
> completely
> definable, similar to design specs for notify-osd, correct?
>
> On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Celeste Lyn Paul <celeste@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> On Thursday 23 April 2009 05:42:02 pm Ted Gould wrote:
>> > On Wed, 2009-04-22 at 17:48 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
>> > > So to get things started, I'd like to suggest Messaging Menu
>> integrated
>> > > into the systray via the new protocol as an Ayatana objective for
>> Karmic.
>> > >  To assist in this effort, another community developer (I'll thank
>> him
>> by
>> > > name after it works) is working on getting KDE trunk (the to be 4.3)
>> > > running on Jaunty via Project Neon.  That should provide a
>> reasonably
>> > > stable basis for Ayatana developers to work with.
>> >
>> > I think that this isn't a good idea for the messaging indicator.  The
>> > principle reason for that is that the spec only deals with the icon
>> not
>> > the menu part of the indicator.  If we took the current indicator,
>> > ported it to this spec, and then displayed it in KPanel -- the menu
>> > would still be a GTK+ menu.  Which is going to look... okay, but not
>> > really that great.
>> >
>> > I think that we need to strive for a better experience than that on
>> the
>> > *buntu desktops[1].  I think that the panels on both should be very
>> > tightly integrated and consistent, and I don't think we can achieve
>> that
>> > using either of the notification area specs.
>>
>> I don't think Scott was suggesting we use a GTK+ menu on the KDE
>> desktop.
>> Why
>> can't a separate Plasma widget menu be written that does whatever it is
>> you
>> want it to do to? You can still have a common service to handle
>> information
>> processing for both desktops; the plasmoid simply displays the
>> information
>> passed to it.
(top posting fixed)
> Agreed,
> The same underlying layer of notification, passed then processed by a
> Plasma
> widget within Kubuntu environment.  Aspects of plasmoid are still
> completely
> definable, similar to design specs for notify-osd, correct?
>
There is no public information I'm aware of that anything has been defined.

I hope that the KDE front end for notify-osd will provide a look and feel
consistent with the rest of KDE so these non-KDE apps can have well
integrated notifications in a KDE environment.

Scott K