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Re: [Ayatana] Getting rid of Evolution?



On May 18, 2010, at 05:43 PM, Martin Owens wrote:

>I use evolution for my email, calendar and contacts.... and I try and
>teach people how to use it. It's got a pretty bad design on the desktop.
>A facsimile of Microsoft's Outlook with a non-standard backend data
>store which is not useful to more integration and further development
>beyond the limited APIs we got.

I can't tell you how many times I've threatened (and started :) to write a
an imap-aware mail reader that didn't suck.  It's a huge undertaking.
Personally these days I find that Claws is the least frustrating MUA and has
many rather nice features.  It's *only* an MUA, which I consider a good
thing.  Integration with calendars, address books, etc. should happen via
operating system provided APIs.  OS X gets this right IMHO (and Mail.app is
my next favorite MUA).

>I'm all for replacing evolution data store and the evolution UI, but I
>fear what will happen is that we will be told to use the internet
>(because everything is online right) and we won't be able to have our
>data on our machines any more.

I hope not.  I'm not personally a fan of gmail, nor of storing my email in the
cloud.  I want it local and I want a traditional application to read it.  I'm
willing to admit I'm a dinosaur in this regard. ;)

>Of course if we do go about replacing Evolution, it's going to be an
>awful lot of work. I know of people who would like to replace the
>backend with couchdb, perhaps that's a place to start. I'd also mention
>KDE's Akonadi services but they suffer much the same problems IMO.
>
>Then there is the problem that no one's figured out how to do
>incremental backups of monolithic databases so my current email database
>eats through my hard drive space every time I perform a backup.

Maildir backed IMAP access is the only way to go.

-Barry

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