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On 10/11/2012 10:03 AM, Fabien Pinckaers wrote:
> Hello,
I have to assist Fabian

For long I thought that a browser based solution can not keep up with a 
native client.
We are using 6.1 and access a server running in the cloud via https - 
the web client is extremely fast and the GTK is unusable slow.

Nevertheless there are some shortcomings in 6.1 - I think - most is just 
not implemented as tabs, printing work flow and some others - see 
comments of Collin earlier this thread.

In respect to 7.0 we should not confuse the fabulous web client 
technology and the more or less useless eye-candy issues.

For fast (professional) working it will be necessary to open partner and 
products in list views instead of icons. I hardly see anyone scanning 
icons for services  and partners - especially for contacts.

It is still hard to believe that contact names will not be split into 
first and last name making professional marketing impossible in the base 
version (may be a German issue)

In general the 7.x webclient seems to be a "one more click" solution by 
suppressing the search buttons and the right menu as well as creating 
wide white strips left and right in form view causing much more word 
wrap than necessary and not being able to hide the left menu in list views.

may be some of my remarks are already addressed....
> We would be glad if someone wants to become the official maintainer of
> the GTK client. We can transfert the rights to the current trunk to a
> team or ~openerp-community.
>
> But in my opinion, there is nothing in the GTK client that the web
> client can not do:
>    - the web client is faster (especially if not standalone in v7.0)
>    - there is nothing that the web client can not do; as en example, the
>      v7.0 POS does barcode, touchscreen, non connected mode, ...
>    - the web client has shortcuts (in v7.0)
>    - the v7.0 web client is so good that nobody will want to use GTK
>      anymore
>
> But, more importantly, the web client is modular. It means that if your
> accountant or warehouse user need something, you can develop it easily.
> A community member, Colin MacMillan, developed tabs for the web client.
> It took him 16 minutes of development:
> https://twitter.com/ColinMacMillan/status/236788938331791360
> As it's a module, you can use tabs or the breadcrumb at your own choice.
>
> I understand that some still consider the GTK as a requirement because
> as of v6.0 and before, the GTK client was much better and robust than
> the web one. But now, and in the future, the web client is incredingbly
> good. (and technologies like GTK or QT are deprecated compared to HTML5)
>
> The reason why we want to stop our efforts on the GTK client is that we
> prefer to develop one UI which is great, rather than two UI that are
> halfly great.
>
> So, let us know if someone want to maintain the GTK client so that we
> can transfer the rights on the trunk branch. But if you want to do it,
> be ready to assign 5 full time developers on it. Otherwise it will not
> be possible for you to follow the future evolutions and you will be
> trapped on old versions, just because you mis-evaluated the web client
> potential.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> On 10/11/2012 09:32 AM, NF informatique wrote:
> > Hello everyone !
> >
> > ++1 for GTK
> >
> > we installed both web client and GTK. Quickly the web client was only
> > used remotly when no GTK-based solution where available, but we mainly
> > used GTK client with remote graphical sessions, really more friendly
> > that web client.
> >
> > kind regards
> >
> > Nicolas Frey
> >
> > Le 11. 10. 12 09:24, Serpent Consulting Services a écrit :
> > > +1 for GTK.
> > >
> > > Well, the point is old and existing users are not always tech-savvy or
> > > fans of social-looking layout like v7 has! Its not so easy for them to
> > > move onto web totally.
> > >
> > > For end users,  the GUI matters. They won't easily understand that its
> > > same application and why would they worry about look, they prefer
> > > functionalities.
> > >
> > > It is like someone would tell you, hey since version 7.0, you have to
> > > use a new software!
> > >
> > > So, in our opinion, both the clients are important!
> > >
> > > On Thursday 11 October 2012 12:40 PM, office wrote:
> > > > +1 for GTK client for OE 7.
> > > >
> > > > Dumitru Gilcescu
> > > > Fil System
> > > >
> > > > On 10/11/2012 09:56 AM, Normunds Vilcans wrote:
> > > > > Hello everyone!
> > > > >
> > > > > As it seems, that OpenERP S.A. abandoned a development of GTK
> > > > > client, but lot of users still want it, I  propose to make Community
> > > > > Edition on launchpad and prepare it for ver.7.0 in a couple of months.
> > > > >
> > > > > My concerns by not dropping GTK client is:
> > > > >
> > > > > - production users need stable running, fast client without that
> > > > > shit eye candy what in 90% just prevent you to work efficiently,
> > > > > - accountants need it,
> > > > > - warehouse users need it,
> > > > >
> > > > > Let's leave web interface for marketing and sales guys.
> > > > >
> > > > > What is your thoughts on this concern?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > >
> > > > > Normunds Vilcans
> > > > > Alistek, SIA
> > > > > Tel: +371 67964296
> > > > > Fax: +371 67964296
> > > > > Mob: +371 29721272
> > > > >
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