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[Nhomar Hernández <nhomar@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hello Mario.

I think policy is correctly explained here:

http://doc.openerp.com/v6.1/contribute/11_bug_tracker.html

And the rule is simple.

Openerp 6.1 is deprecated since 1 year ago, when Version 7.0 starts to be
planified.

To avoid get fixed things only in trunk, you should buy an Openerp
Enterprise and OpenERP itself can make the push to 6.1.

https://www.openerp.com/en/pricing

If This is not an option for you, you can make by your own, and mantain
your branch.

I am an stronger believer of Community, but in my experience, try to
mantain just your branch bring to you more work than solutions (I life this
since 4 years ago and + 30 customers)

Even mantain just a set of modules is difficult "Imagine maintain all the
core."

Some comments in line.


2013/4/4 Mario Arias <the.clone.master@xxxxxxxxx>

> Hi,
>
> It is time that we, as a community, start defining how we will keep 6.1
> alive and moving forward.  After all, it is the most recent "real life
> proven"  version available right now, as V7+ is only good for "SorrySAP
> Fantasy Land" and taking your lunch orders...
>
> Don't get me wrong, I like many improvements on v7, but it will take one
> or two years to be able to use it for real ERP environments (it IS an ERP
> after all, isn't it ?? )
>

I really think we have more improvements than failures, (but we have a lot
of failure i know)



> So....  how should we proceed to keep 6.1 working in the mean time ??
>

It is working now, and if you want to receive push on it, you should buy an
OPW, i think it is a good point to do it, because it was extended until +1
year I think, and you __since now__ can prepare and migrate and test
everything with a year of planification to move to 7.- or 8.0 may be in ...
one year?.


>
> OpenERP S.A. already "deprecated"  6.1 series on LP (now they are back but
> it is not clear for how long...)
>
>
The date is known dude, it was mentioned at last november and extended past
february, if openerp 7.0 is not good enought yet (I think we have together
a lot of work here) IMHO is better mantain the new one than by fear stay
 in the past.



> Many bug fixes are being only applied to 7.0+
>
> Even with OPW, it seems bug fixes are not being aplied on 6.1, as you can
> read on
>
> https://code.launchpad.net/~openerp-dev/openobject-addons/6.1-opw-581633-rgo/+merge/134877
>

I think we have here a misunderstood, if this fix works for you (let me
tell you i dont need it) you can run an

bzr merge branch

In your local enviromet test and use it.... if you use just blessed
packages you have a different problem, but I think you just need to buy an
OPW and ask too! for this merge, I am pretty sure they will make

I have several examples where the merge is done and other that doesn't for
several reasons, you must fight the point and this is all, This is a
community I think....


Even you can test it automatically here:

http://runbot.openerp.com/

ctrl + f (nick of branch)

And ask to build in 10 minutes you will have a test enviroment.

>
>
>
> When (not if) the 6.1 series are finally removed by S.A., how could we
> continue to report bugs and fixes ?
>


Easily, you continue report in Launchpad, and maintain by yourself, or some
members of community or... move to 7.0, Again you have one year my friend.

>
> Last time I checked OCB community branches are only created for 7.0, and
> besides the policy is that bugs should be opened on "official branches"
> before being considered for inclusion on the community ones...
>


Dude you have a misunderstood here....

This is the policy:
http://doc.openerp.com/v6.1/contribute/11_bug_tracker.html

And this are the community managed teams.
http://doc.openerp.com/v6.1/contribute/05_developing_modules.html#community-addons

I dont understand why do you think if OpenERP SA decide by themselve manage
some bug policy, you think you can not report them... you can, but is not
responsability of nobody mantain something already obsolete..... at least
that you want to do it (and i think it is a bad decisition) You should move
to version 7.0 as soon as possible.

>
> I am tired and frustrated of reporting bugs on LP, and see them at most
> fixed for trunk...
>

This is the policy:

Simple.

For free in trunk.
Payed in Stable.
More payed (where you want).
For free of everything (just cost in your time) make the merge by yourself

>
>
> Please, share your thoughts !!!
>
>
> Regards,
> -Mario
>

I am a little worried about some OpenERP develompent decisions, but now I
think even imagine stay in 6.1 is a really madness....

We as community must improve and continue testing deeper and deeper in our
envirometn version 70

I REALLY think the useability stuff and the finish of JS framework is an
amazing job.

We trained at least 50 people already in V7 and +300 in 6.x versions and I
must to say that i was amazed with with the 50% of information in our
trainings on V70 people could excecute 100% of tasks with 30 % or even 40 %
of less job on our side....

What I say, and I hope my bad english allow me is that the the solution is
MORE AND MORE test on V7.0

Defend the points.

Test in your enviroments,

Dont try to stop the evolution...

Because in a way or another, I think it is taking the correct Way....

@openerp and @fpopenerp

Please dont fail us, stop take features and not hear the Community, we are
facing a lot of problems as Mario Says, and I think Mario is facing a lot
of things that other community members are facing

@mario

Men, support OpenERP is NOT use OpenERP is help us to move forward with ALL
the support and playing this game together, not pushing in a way that
__just__ help a little quantity of people.

The Enterprise licence in My opinion is Mandatory for serious enviroments,
if you dont Suppor OpenERP, How can you demmand them support?




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Best Regards My 2 cents.

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