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[Pedro Manuel Baeza Romero <pedro.baeza@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hi, Ana, as you know, I see this as a very interesting feature to have it
on community repositories, but maybe starting with 7.0 port, because
contribution standards set for these repositories make necessary a lot of
work to do (PEP8 compliance, nomenclature and so on) that can be done while
porting to 7.0, but very tedious and error prone for 6.1

Regards.


2013/10/22 Ana Juaristi <ajuaristio@xxxxxxxxx>

> Hi everybody:
>
> Trying to "*Always Look* on the Bright *Side of Life" *I would like to
> ask if you would find interesting including on OCA branches our mrp
> extension project.
> They are very complex modules allowing managing manufacturing by
> operations that for sure could be strongly improved by community. By the
> moment we are alone on this but I would like sharing and contributing with
> them to OCA.
> Yesterday speaking with Pedro we are thinking about launching a project to
> migrate to 7.0 in short time, so... What do you think?
> They are still evolving now, since we have got a couple of projects on
> 6.0, 6.1 using them but I think we could easily change the branche were we
> are working
>
> https://code.launchpad.net/~manufacturing-team/avanzosc/manufacturing-6.0
> https://code.launchpad.net/~avanzosc-manufactuaring-team/avanzosc/mrp-6.1
>
>
> On the other side, we have got more than 80 modules built as extensions
> for 6.0, 6.1 that if someone find interesting could also be included on OCA
> community branches.
> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~avanzosc/avanzosc/addons-6.0/files
> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~avanzosc/avanzosc/addons-6.1/files
>
> Thank you everybody for being there and make possible open world:
>
> Ana
>
>
> **
>
>
> 2013/10/22 Pedro Manuel Baeza Romero <pedro.baeza@xxxxxxxxx>
>
>> Hi, Ray, let's catch that positivity you mention as the end of this
>> debate.
>>
>> See you soon by these places!
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>>
>> 2013/10/22 Ray Carnes <rcarnes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>
>>> Hi Pedro,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for the clarification.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If I see an email that I think will damage my ability to sell services
>>> with OpenERP, because I think it doesn’t accurately portray the attitude
>>> and approach I see from so many partners , I want to politely and
>>> respectfully ask those writing it to consider how it may affect others.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> People are joining this community every day.  Some of them are seeing
>>> slides created by OpenERP partners with very strong and ‘over-reacted’
>>> messages on websites who’s only purpose is to spread FUD about OpenERP.
>>>  Our competitors seize on these things to make OpenERP look bad.  Some of
>>> the community read the emails that get sent out and wonder how cohesive the
>>> community really is.  Some of them (my customers) ask why there is such a
>>> violent reaction from the community about the res.partner model changes in
>>> the last release and if it is a sign that OpenERP is not ‘ready’ for them
>>> to use.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This is bad for my business, and probably for others.    Healthy debate
>>> is required, refusing to consider anyone else’s’ perspective but your own
>>> (demanding to be ‘right’) is damaging.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rafael is one of the biggest assets OpenERP has – but can also be one of
>>> the biggest liabilities also (I’ve heard this from my customers).  I like
>>> most of what Rafael does, but not all.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I prefer to think of what ‘I’ am doing is sharing my perspective (and I
>>> don’t take it too seriously – I just want to make sure the praise for the
>>> community and for OpenERP is shared as often as the criticisms).  I want
>>> positivity!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Everyone is free to say whatever they want – including me!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for the time you took reading my email!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ray.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Pedro Manuel Baeza Romero [mailto:pedro.baeza@xxxxxxxxx]
>>> *Sent:* Monday, October 21, 2013 3:45 PM
>>> *To:* Ray Carnes; openerp-community
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Openerp-community] Network Audit Module
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you Ray for the explanation, and let me make a copy to the whole
>>> list.
>>>
>>> When I said Eric, maybe I meant also you, because your two e-mails are a
>>> little - please allow me this expression - over-reacted. It's clear that
>>> not everyone is happy with OpenERP S.A. attitude, but, hey, everyone here
>>> is trying to contribute and get a wonderful ecosystem around the core. The
>>> other day I wrote in this list that I love the way community repositories
>>> are growing, and this is due to the great collaboration that a lot of
>>> people is doing, including for example Raphaël himself.
>>>
>>> Maybe that word was a little malicious, but I think it's an escape
>>> method that everyone has used some time (irony, sarcasm, and so on..).
>>> Please don't take it too much seriously.
>>>
>>> Let's continue this great thing!
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013/10/22 Ray Carnes <rcarnes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>
>>> Hi Pedro,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Eric is responding to my two emails that I wrote after reading the word
>>> ‘banned’ in P. Christeas’ comment at the bottom of this email thread, after
>>> reading the word ‘resistance’ in a comment Rafael Valyi wrote earlier today.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you read from the bottom up, you will understand his comment.
>>>
>>>
>>> Ray.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Openerp-community [mailto:openerp-community-bounces+rcarnes=
>>> ursainfosystems.com@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Pedro Manuel
>>> Baeza Romero
>>> *Sent:* Monday, October 21, 2013 3:27 PM
>>> *To:* openerp-community
>>>
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Openerp-community] Network Audit Module
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi, Eric, I don't understand why are you talking about this. Is there
>>> something I have missed?
>>>
>>> Regards.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013/10/22 Eric Caudal <eric.caudal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>
>>> This is not a perfect world and you have to play with the cards you are
>>> given indeed.
>>> Not contributing because of "OpenERP sa" is finally a double penalty...
>>> (they are not perfect but they have made as well a lot of good as well
>>> and not contributing doesnot help solving their mistakes)
>>>
>>> Eric Caudal
>>>
>>> *CEO*
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> *Elico Corporation, Shanghai branch*
>>>
>>> *OpenERP Premium Certified Training Partner *
>>>
>>> Cell: + 86 186 2136 1670
>>>
>>> Office: + 86 21 6211 8017/27/37
>>>
>>> Skype: elico.corp
>>>
>>> eric.caudal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>> http://www.elico-corp.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/22/2013 04:29 AM, Ray Carnes wrote:
>>>
>>> I've already heard back from one of you that thinks I am naïve.  I don't
>>>
>>> agree.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Are you a football fan?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Three referees were talking.  One had just finished calling his first
>>>
>>> game, the next had been working for 20 years, the last was about to
>>>
>>> retire.  The youngest and newest said he had learned he had to call the
>>>
>>> penalties AS HE SAW THEM.  The second laughed and said he did that too
>>>
>>> when he was first in the game, but now he called the penalties AS THEY
>>>
>>> ARE.  While the younger ref thought this was interesting, the retiring ref
>>>
>>> laughed at both of them and said he knew by now that THERE IS NO PENALTY
>>>
>>> UNTIL I CALL IT A PENALTY.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> My point?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I understand - I do.  I've heard a lot of the dirty laundry from others.
>>>
>>> I know there are a lot of upset people in the community.  I know we are
>>>
>>> the 'new kids' on the block.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I stand by what I wrote - even though there has been wasted energy in the
>>>
>>> past, it is YOUR choice to be frustrated with OpenERP and keep that from
>>>
>>> making you even more successful than you are.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> They are doing the best with what they have - they aren't perfect and they
>>>
>>> are not scheming to make you waste time on purpose.  They are just doing
>>>
>>> 'things' and you are making these things into frustrations and wasted
>>>
>>> energy.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hey - I hated my parents for 40 years before I realized they just did what
>>>
>>> they did, they didn't mean to upset me, frustrate me or make me feel bad -
>>>
>>> they just made choices.  'I' was the one who gave those choices meanings.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You have the choice - you can choose to continue to feel like they are the
>>>
>>> 'bad' guys or you can spend your energy making things better.   It is only
>>>
>>> a penalty if you call it a penalty.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I wish everyone the very best with OpenERP and everything else you all do.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I will still think this way in 15 years, no matter what OpenERP does.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ray.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>
>>> From: Ray Carnes [mailto:rcarnes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <rcarnes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]
>>>
>>> Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 12:43 PM
>>>
>>> To: 'P. Christeas'; 'Markus Schneider'; 'sharoon.thomas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx'
>>>
>>> Cc: 'openerp-community@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx'
>>>
>>> Subject: RE: [Openerp-community] Network Audit Module
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'd like to welcome everyone who feels slighted by OpenERP S.A back to the
>>>
>>> ONE SINGLE PRODUUCTIVE AND COOPERATIVE OpenERP Community.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I see a lot of frustrated comments and I presume there is a lot of energy
>>>
>>> spent in ways that could be re-directed for the benefit of all of us.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We can't change the world without EVERYONE's help folks!  Together we can
>>>
>>> make OpenERP the best ERP in the world.  As individuals, factions and
>>>
>>> infighters we can't.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Our customers (and potential customers) notice this and so do our
>>>
>>> competitors.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 'banned' and 'resistance' - has that approach really been working that
>>>
>>> well for you?  It is getting you what you want?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 'teamwork' and 'understanding' - these approaches have been working REALLY
>>>
>>> well for me and the company I work for.   OpenERP has provided a platform
>>>
>>> that has helped us TRIPLE the size of our company in 12 months.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I encourage you to 'come back'...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Things just happen, they aren't meant as attacks on what you believe in...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Don't take it personally, don't take your toys and go home sad and mad -
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> be part of the solution that benefits everyone. (please!)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ray Carnes,
>>>
>>> Ursa Information Systems
>>>
>>> OpenERP Gold Partner
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>
>>> From: Openerp-community
>>>
>>> [mailto:openerp-community-bounces+rcarnes=ursainfosystems.com@lists.launch <openerp-community-bounces+rcarnes=ursainfosystems.com@lists.launch>
>>>
>>> pad.net] On Behalf Of P. Christeas
>>>
>>> Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 12:07 PM
>>>
>>> To: Markus Schneider; sharoon.thomas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>> Cc: openerp-community@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [Openerp-community] Network Audit Module
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday 21 October 2013, Markus Schneider wrote:
>>>
>>> is there any list of 'interesting' OpenERP Branches like this one?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> There is even some "banned" ones, that SA. will not want you to ever know
>>>
>>> of..
>>>
>>>
>>>
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