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Re: Crowdfunding campaign for manufacturing modules
Maxime check line 24
http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~openmrp-maintainers/openmrp/6.1/view/head:/mrp_master_extension/__openerp__.py#L24
On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Maxime Chambreuil <
maxime.chambreuil@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Are you saying that you created a different project because you plan to
> make incompatible modules ?
>
> Thanks for the clarification.
>
> --
> Maxime Chambreuil
> +1 (514) 276-5468 #126
>
> ------------------------------
> Hi Maxime:
>
> OpenMRP is modifying MRP standar master data and database structure so
> most modules built for standard will not be valid on extended modules and
> viceversa. It's because of that I think modules should be published on
> different branches. Most of extensions on both aproaches would be not
> compatible.
>
> Standar modules cover IMHO only small assembly companies but they don't
> cover complexity of real manufacturing company.
>
> One of the aproaches of OpenMRP is controlling manufacturing by
> workorders(operations) made on machines (work centers).
> The standar modules have no way to consume or produce materials by
> workorders, or controlling semielaborated products without putting them on
> stock.
> Other functional lack on standar modules would be, manufacturing cost
> control. Normally, there is workers on machines who made the workorders. A
> manufacturing order cost is not only materials included on it but materials
> + machine cost + worker cost on each operation.
>
> Same way if you need having a real manufacturing procurement planning, if
> your operations are long time, you don't need stocking all materials at
> begining of order as in standar way but you only need having materials
> ready when you are going to start the operation that is going to consume
> them (The real manufacturing procurement planning is not covered on OpenMRP
> yet).
>
> The aproach is totally different on both solutions and both could be valid
> depending on casuistic of company's needs. Using OpenMRP will complex a lot
> configuration and proccess on any company but it will cover aspects
> unexistant on standar ones. For example, if your lead is a factory making
> asembly where they don't need calculating cost for machine(they don't have)
> or worker, probably I will propose standar modules. If you have got a
> complex production factory with production likes, machines and wanting to
> know each piece unitary real cost, I would propose OpenMRP.
>
> Wishing it will help you,
>
> Thank you:
>
> Ana
>
>
>
>
> 2013/11/29 Maxime Chambreuil <maxime.chambreuil@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
>> Hello Pedro,
>>
>> Just a few questions : What will be the difference between OpenMRP and
>> OpenERP Manufacturing projects ? Where should someone put its mrp related
>> modules ?
>>
>> Thanks.
>> --
>> Maxime Chambreuil
>> +1 (514) 276-5468 #126
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> Hi, Raphael,
>>
>> Very interesting the backports and the method you have used. We will look
>> every new feature (I only make for now an oversight) of WMS trunk to
>> possible backports, but as you have said, there are some areas that simply
>> cannot be backported. If we get enough funds - I don't want to repeat
>> myself too much, but we are doing this without any other customer support -
>> we will point definitely to use all the v8 potential (without forgetting
>> v7, as I said previously).
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>> 2013/11/29 Raphael Valyi <rvalyi@xxxxxxxxx>
>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 9:12 AM, Fabien Pinckaers <fp@xxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11/29/2013 11:51 AM, Nhomar Hernández wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > @Fabien: I think it should be great if you share with us the specific
>>>> > branch in this thread where the new stock is landing please, to be
>>>> sure
>>>> > everybody start with it from the same place.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~openerp-dev/openobject-addons/trunk-wms/revision/9418
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> just a word: eventually we don't need to wait Q2 2014 (or later?) to
>>> start building upon the new things. A few things (only) are possible to
>>> backport on v7, that will make a smoother transition to v8 when it will be
>>> stable.
>>>
>>> For instance a project I'm working with should be in production by
>>> December 31th and it needs the concept of picking waves (that many already
>>> made similar modules but nothing OCA quality like).
>>> So instead of going unstable v8 or doing crap again on regular v7, I
>>> backported the picking wave module here:
>>> https://github.com/akretion/oe-addons-subtree-stock_picking_wave
>>>
>>> By using git and git-subtree (I will eventually post about the whole
>>> trick), we are able to properly keep in synch with the upstream branch
>>> without the need to have a folder with all the v8 modules to accommodate to
>>> the addons-path.
>>> So the extracted mirror of the trunk-wms is here:
>>> https://github.com/akretion/oe-addons-subtree-stock_picking_wave/tree/trunk-wms
>>> and the backported module is a branch of it
>>> https://github.com/akretion/oe-addons-subtree-stock_picking_wave/tree/backport-7.0
>>>
>>> I think OCA could assume working this way for specific module backports
>>> (if we need a new branch of all modules for every kind of backport, soon
>>> these branches are simply incompatible and we face an combinatorial
>>> explosion of unmanageable backports). I'm willing to help setting this up
>>> in case people are interested.
>>>
>>> Now, make no mistake, backporting the new stock quant system to v7 is
>>> out of question. I also extracted/backported purchase_requisition to v7
>>> that I use in another project. And something we could backport to v7 is the
>>> saas2 branch analytic_account module. Or eventually, as v8 isn't for now,
>>> we could start having a merge of saasX branches into OCB/RS-OCB. I started
>>> and I can tell the the merge is rather easy, so again I let OCA people
>>> bring the topic on the table again if they think it makes sense.
>>>
>>> That being said, I wish good luck to the funding, I also wish it base on
>>> V8 stock things as it fixes scalability issues that used to be one of the
>>> major OpenERP flaw, the kind of thing that was litteraly fueling
>>> sorryopenerp.com. This is very cool to see v8 finally bringing a lot of
>>> good work in the WMS area.
>>>
>>>
>>> Best Regards.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Raphaël Valyi
>>> Founder and consultant
>>> http://twitter.com/rvalyi <http://twitter.com/#!/rvalyi>
>>> +55 21 2516 2954
>>> www.akretion.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
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