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[Ana Juaristi <ajuaristio@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hello everybody:

My feeling is that Oscar's idea would be really usefull for old and new
users.
Very simple case of use (now testing projects/tasks) on Odoo:
I want to look for tasks of a single project.
I need doing this actions on screen:

1. click on combo
2. click on advanced search
3. look for field project
4. assing value on field
5. If I save filter, value on field is fixed, so
6. if I want to look for another value/project, I need
7. looking for this filter
8. Change value...

On Oscar's aproach (similar to search views on last version) I just need
having project field included on it, so steps are:
1. write project name substring
2. search
3. Needing a new project, type a new name.

That's all

You can see it's much more intuitive usable for end customer be new or old.
For me (sincerelly) we lost a lot of usability with this new "one single
combo" on searching items.

My 2 cents.

Ana


2014-06-19 10:49 GMT+02:00 Olivier Dony <odo@xxxxxxxxxxx>:

> On 06/18/2014 07:01 PM, Oscar Alcala wrote:
>
>>         The odoo team already did some improvements on the search Omnibox:
>>         Inline image 2
>>         This is a great feature, but I still think that can it can get
>> better
>>         it feels really weird clicking on a dropdown and suddenly seeing a
>>         stripe appearing on the top of the list (maybe a search icon on
>> the
>>         header will make it more natural), dont get me wrong, current
>> filtering
>>         works fine and the Odoo team is focused in making thinks simple, a
>>         single search box is a good choice for new users, this is because
>> they
>>         are not familiar with the UI, but what about users that know they
>>         data?, users that already know the UI, these users need to focus
>> on the
>>         data itself, so using live filtering on text boxes on each column
>>         header seems to me like a way to go.
>>
>
> Like all UX design choices, it is something naturally subjective, so I can
> only give you some hints.
>
> As you know, the omnisearch allows you to do everything from a single
> place:
> - filter using predefined filters (type the name of that filter)
> - filter using custom filters (type the name of the custom filter)
> - filter on fields that are not visible in the current (list/kanban/graph)
> view
> - filter using smart filters that can execute arbitrary filter
> expressions, search on multiple columns at once, etc.
> - craft complex filters with advanced search expressions (and save them as
> custom filters if needed)
> - automatically combine filters with AND or OR operators as required
> - toggle pre-defined group-by filters for data analysis
> - etc.
>
> This cannot be accomplished with multiple input fields on top of each
> column, so experienced users will definitely need to continue using the
> omnisearch.
>
> But, even the basic "Search field for 'foo'" is just as fast with the
> omnisearch. You type "foo" and then use the arrow keys to select
>    "Search Name for: foo"
> or "Search Status for: foo".
> Plus it will try to only auto-complete what makes sense, for example the
> suggestion for "Search Status" will only come up if what you typed matches
> a possible status.
>
> Based on this, having extra search fields on each column seems like it
> would only clutter the interface without bringing any added value.
>
> The main reported problem with the v7 omnisearch is that many2one fields
> are autocompleted using an automatic search in the data, which can slow
> down the autocompletion in some cases. So for v8 we'll make that search
> only on-demand, and the initial pop-up for suggestions will come up
> instantly all the time.
>
> From our R&D point of view it seems better to improve the current
> omnisearch to make it efficient for both new and experienced users than to
> introduce more complexity/clutter in the interface.
>
>
>
>          I know it won't apply for all type of fields (Computed, Property
>> and
>>         Related), but what about having all fields searchable by
>> default?, It
>>         will make the module development process simpler, no need to
>> declare
>>         where I can or cannot search.
>>
>
> As listed above, a search view involves more than just being able to
> search each field with "field contains foo", so it is a good idea for the
> developer to think about it twice. We could think about pre-populating the
> search view with visible fields, but that would make the search view API
> hybrid and more complicated.
>
>
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