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[Ana Juaristi <ajuaristio@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hello everybody.
Yes, we discused long and strong about manufacturing in Odoo and there is a
project embrion to be maturated for all community, oca and odoo sa itself.
It would need also several decisions to take so please give us a couple of
days to write a kind of resume about what we spoke and lets decide after
the best options.
Thank you:
Ana
El 06/06/2014 16:10, "Pierre Gault" <pierre.gault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
escribió:

> Hello Alejandro,
>
> Exactly, we are often asked to simulate "what if" scenarios, allocate
> resources in the workcenters... All the points you mentioned below are
> critical in production, and Odoo is not able yet to achieve this kind of
> scenario.
> There are several options regarding this problematic:
> - Go through connectors with specialized production planning softwares
> such as frepple, Arena, Simio. The problem is that we lose integration
> (only export/import)
> - Look for V6 works that have not been upgraded.
> - Review the total MRP concept in Odoo and make a strong contributing
> collaboration of the community.
>
> I am convinced that the last option could make Odoo one of the big player
> in manufacturing sector. On that subject, I have been told by Pedro Baeza
> that some partners are meeting at Open Days to discuss about MRP
> improvements in V8. I hope it will result in something relevant.
> Please, those who are interested to contribute or who know about works
> already started, say it to the community, so we can start working on it
> together.
>
> Kind regards.
>
> Pierre Gault
>
> Consultant OpenERP
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alejandro Santana" <alejandrosantana@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: "Siddique Momin" <siddiqmomin@xxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: "Pierre Gault" <pierre.gault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
> openerp-expert-production@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Friday, June 6, 2014 7:30:46 AM
> Subject: Re: [Openerp-expert-production] Planning and finite capacity in
> manufacturing - Odoo
>
>
>
> Maybe read this?:
> https://www.odoo.com/event/OpenDays-2014-5/track/MRP-Improvements--31
>
>
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> Alejandro Santana
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> 2014-06-06 12:09 GMT+02:00 Alejandro Santana < alejandrosantana@xxxxxxxxx
> > :
>
>
>
>
> Hi, we are being consulted on the same subject.
> So far, standard Odoo MRP is quite weak in this aspect and not
> reality-ready for many manufacturing companies.
>
>
> Talking with both companies and University proffessors, and with
> experience from previous jobs in industry, we are in the process of
> detecting actual needs (in the long run).
>
>
> Yet to do a complete deep analysis, I summarize here just some points we
> were told or thought about:
> - One of the things is, precisely the need to plan with a given finite
> capacity...
> - but also to simulate different plannings according to different
> parameters, such as:
> _- fastest route,
> _- cheapest route (operator cost, extra hours cost, machine consumption),
> _- balance load among different machines or try to avoid starting a
> machine,
> _- balance (or maximize or minimize) machine total working hours
> (depending on each machine policy),
> _- optimize electric consumption if more than one machine can produce a
> piece but have different power consumption,...) and then choose one,
> discard the rest.
> - take into account calendar availability (scheduled maintenance work,
> weekends, each worker vacations or other duties, official holidays (levels:
> country, state, city, company),...),
> - be able to tweak the calculated planning (here would help a complete
> Gantt chart, not the existing limited one),
> - be able to deal with the fact that sometimes 1 operator can operate more
> than one machine simultaneously,
> - be able to recompute just the remaining part of a planning if some
> changes happen (machine breaks, for example)
> - be able to relate each worker to different machines he/she can operate,
> - parametric bill of materials: kind of template bill of materials, with
> some parameters in parents that change their children values and so on
> (super useful also for quotations of complex products which vary in some
> parametes (think x, y, z, rounding radius, surface polishing level,...)),
> - ...
>
> Were also asked about the posibility to export/import data to/from Arena,
> Simio or others.
>
> As we see, manufacturing is a very complex world and there is a lot of
> work to be done, but a lot can be achieved.
>
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> Alejandro Santana
>
>         alejandrosantana@xxxxxxxxx
>
>
> ~
>
> ANUBÍA, soluciones en la nube, S.L.
>
> www.anubia.es
>
> Plaza Fernando Conde Montero Ríos, 9
>
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> 36201, Vigo (Pontevedra)
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> 2014-06-06 7:04 GMT+02:00 Siddique Momin < siddiqmomin@xxxxxxxxx > :
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Pierre,
>
>
> I think finite capacity can be achieved by complete MPS in picture
> considering the capacity and time cycle for the work centers. I have worked
> on this aspect and achieved to certain level through MPS based on following
> points in Odoo..
>
>
> 1. Work center time cycle (weekly time for availability)
> 2. Work center capacity and time of pre, in process and after production
> 3. Managing the scheduling based on MTS and MTO based on the requirement.
>
>
> This gives me the actual loading of the WC to be run with and also
> flexibility to check alternate routing for availability run of the
> production orders in case one line is packed with capacity.
>
>
> Let me know if you need more details.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Sid
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 12:50 AM, Pierre Gault <
> pierre.gault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > wrote:
>
>
> Hello community,
>
> We are facing a growing demand of planning and finite capacity management
> in manufacturing. Many customers needs to plan their manufacturing delays
> before confirming manufacturing orders. More over, finite capacity
> management seems to be lacking in Odoo and it looks impossible to really
> plan a production considering several manufacturing orders in the same
> workcenter.
>
> Do you know about future projects that would improve this part of Odoo
> MRP? Are you facing the same kind of demand regarding your customers?
> In our side, we would be happy to contribute to this and share our
> experience with the community and interested contributors.
>
>
> Pierre Gault
>
> Consultant OpenERP
> Savoir-faire Linux
> Tel: + 1 (514) 276 5468, ext. 329
> Courriel: pierre.gault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> 7275 Saint-Urbain, bureau 200
> Montréal, QC
> H2R 2Y5
>
>
>
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