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[Chuck Short <chuck.short@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Sat, 28 May 2011 21:05:49 +0800
Thomas Goirand <thomas@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hi Luca,
> 
> thanks for this prompt reply.
> 
> ----- Original message -----
> > Hi Thomas!
> > 
> > Il 28/05/2011 09:00, Thomas Goirand ha scritto:
> > > I previously uploaded Swift to Experimental, but the email I used
> > > was one in Ubuntu launchpad, which unfortunately is a "subscriber
> > > only post" type of list (eg openstack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx).
> > 
> > Those lists trigger a bounce, and we don't want contact addresses
> > which generate them, so...
> > 
> > > It seems that Swift got rejected, but I don't know for what
> > > reason. Would you be kind enough to let me know why?
> > 
> > ... it was rejected, it was asked to reupload with another
> > maintainer address. Package was otherwise OK, IIRC.
> 
> That's what I thought, but I had no way to be sure
> of it without asking. It was a wise decision. :)
> 
> > > Of course, for further upload, I wont do the same mistake. Please
> > > bare with me, as Glance, which I also uploaded, has the same
> > > issue. Note that Glance has a build-depends on python-swift, so
> > > it can't be uploaded before Swift.
> > 
> > Yes, we're holding glance for a new swift upload. You should
> > consider moving away from openstack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx for glance
> > too, by uploading 2011.2-2 or, if you prefer not wasting a
> > revision, reupload as 2011.2-1 after we rejected the old one.
> 
> The only issue is that I don't want to use my
> email address as maintainer, because I am hoping
> to have others join a team of maintainers, and since
> I asked for an Alioth package to have a mailing list
> the day before the maintenance, I am guessing that
> my request for a new Alioth list/project has been
> lost... I'll wait a day or 2 more and ask again for
> a new Alioth project, then upload again. Best would
> be to reject Glance, so the debian/changelog diff
> with Ubuntu is kept to minimum (I'm trying to work
> as much as possible with upstream which is people
> from Ubuntu). Thanks.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Thomas (from my phone)
> 
> P.S to Openstackers: I really would have like to
> avoid creating a separate list for the Debian pkgs
> of Openstack, especially because I will have to
> have a diff in the debian/control (maintainer field
> will have to be different) but as you see,
> Launchpad prevents me from doing so. Any solution
> from Canonical/Ubuntu would be welcome...
> 
> 

Hi,

As much as I would to keep the openstack packaging diff between Ubuntu
and Debian to a minimum, we are definitely going to be making changes
to the debian packaging for Ubuntu and creating a delta between the two
packages.

There are several reasons why we will be doing this:

- Openstack promotion to main - in oneiric we are going to be promoting
  openstack to main. Based on the feedback we receive from the main
  inclusion team we are going to make some changes to the debian
  packaging. 

- Stabilization: In natty we did a weekly snapshot of nova so that
  users can test out features on an ongoing basis. It also allowed us
  to tell Soren and Thierry that program X is missing in the sudoers
  file. If we sync from Debian we will loose this feature that our
  users and developers in Ubuntu have used in the past.

- Feature support: For Ubuntu Cloud we are still determining which
  features that we want to support. An example of this if we want to
  support Xen as well as LXC or KVM. This might or might not cause a
  diff in the debian packaging. 

With that being said I would be happy to work with the Debian Openstack
team, and contributing Ubuntu patches back into Debian when it makes
sense for Debian. If you have any questions please let me know.

Regards
chuck