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[Kyle Kelley <rgbkrk@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hi!

It's worth pointing out that GitHub's designers jump straight into Pull
Requests, designing right alongside developers. Zach Holman gave a great
talk about their process which included how everyone works together
seamlessly with autonomy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyz3jkOBbQY

-- Kyle


On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 8:43 PM, Toshiyuki Hayashi <hayashi@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I really understand and share Gabriel's concern, but now GitHub has
> become familiar for web design people as well, at least it is the most
> popular service in those kind of services.
> Also G+ community which using now is not suitable for discussions,
> difficult to track threads, share images or texts and read through. I
> believe GitHub is the best solution for now.
>
> Regards,
> Toshiyuki
>
> On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 8:40 AM, Jaromir Coufal <jcoufal@xxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> > Guys, thank you for the discussion, I have some points here (comments
> inside
> > the mail)
> >
> >
> > On 2013/18/06 17:25, Julie Pichon wrote:
> >
> > "Gabriel Hurley" <Gabriel.Hurley@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > I've been hoping some of the more design-oriented folks would weigh in on
> > this issue, but that hasn't particularly happened...
> >
> > It seems there are already a few of them on the G+ community, it would be
> > worthwhile to also have this conversation in the current community and
> see
> > if people agree with the problem and are interested in trying out a new
> > option. I started a thread pointing to this one over there.
> >
> > Yeah, the idea and conversation started there originally. However there
> is
> > not much activity yet and there was no reply. So the question lies there
> for
> > few weeks already. Hopefully there will be some reaction on revived post.
> >
> >
> > My concern is that as engineers we're all comfortable with GitHub, but
> that
> > it will end up being an impediment or discouragement for people who fall
> > more on the creative side. I don't disagree with the benefits as stated
> and
> > I'm willing to give any solution a try, but I want to be careful that we
> > don't alienate a portion of the contributors by our choice of tools.
> >
> > I share with this concern, although I also very much agree with Jaromir
> on
> > the downsides of the current setup.
> >
> > I completely understand and share the concern as well.
> >
> > However, my thinking is... GitHub is mainly for developers, but not only
> for
> > them. And it is just about registration to GitHub to be active and be
> able
> > to comment there, nothing more (even more, you see all the issues without
> > registration).
> > What I love about that is not just having better format for discussions,
> but
> > also getting closer to main development stream. So the people who are
> > creative and might help with UX improvement ideas, gets also to the
> reality
> > of implementation and in the end hopefully these two streams would meet
> > together - which would be amazing result. Both can learn from each other.
> >
> > Because, the same concern occurs when we try to move Horizon development
> > oriented people to discussions on G+ community.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > -- Jarda
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Julie
> >
> > In general I leave it to the community, though. :-)
> >
> >     - Gabriel
>
>
>
> --
> Toshiyuki Hayashi
> NTT Innovation Institute Inc.
> Tel:650-579-0800 ex4292
> mail:hayashi@xxxxxxxxx
>
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