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[tony byrne <tony.badwolf@xxxxxxxxx>]

OK by itself ide does not require a preferences system. A simple ide
approach is to use QUICKLY_EDITOR (with all the fallbacks) in
get_quickly_editors() to edit multiple files and EDITOR in
read_input() to block and edit one file. Currently both
get_quickly_editors() and read_input() are locked together.
 I toyed with the idea of using $quickly configure ide but $quickly
configure is only available inside a project. Perhaps make $quickly
configure available outside a project.

 A related branch, add_widgets, allows a developer to run quickly add
<foo> where <foo> is one of the developer's custom favourite file e.g.
company_logo.png. In order to do that we need $quickly add to look
inside <a quickly template>/store *and* the developer's files e.g.
~/Templates. We need an option somewhere pointing to these outside
template files.

add_widgets branch creates this file ~/.config/quickly/preferences

[DEFAULT]
#plugin_path = files which can be used with quickly add command
plugin_path = /usr/share/pyshared/quickly/widgets
ide = gedit
#ide = editor defined in environment

[ubuntu-application]

[ubuntu-flash-game]

[ubuntu-pygame]

[ubuntu-cli]

and uses read_input() to change it.

The point is that configuration is available in 2 of 3 possibilities
quickly has .bashrc
projects have .quickly
templates have nothing

Different templates could need different plugin_path e.g. ~/Templates/java

ubuntu-cli and ubuntu-pygame applications do not have a $quickly add command

For user/developer experience $quickly preferences (or $quickly
configure) -> edit the presented file seems easier than
$EDITOR ~/.bashrc
logout (or close terminal)
login or gnome-terminal
especially as quickly can fill ~/.config/quickly/preferences with lots
of comments

On 27/05/2011, Didier Roche <didrocks@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Le vendredi 27 mai 2011 à 09:04 -0400, Michael Terry a écrit :
>> Tony has proposed an interesting idea: preferences for templates.
>>
>> https://code.launchpad.net/~quickly-committers/quickly/ide/+merge/61326
>>
>> That branch adds a preference system and the first preference: what
>> editor you want to open files in.
>>
>> You might ask as I did, "what about QUICKLY_EDITOR", but Tony says:
>>
>> """
>> Having an environment variable for each template would be unwieldy.
>> Also the environment variables are effectively
>> export PARAMETER=value in the ~/.bashrc file
>> while
>> parameter=value in the ~/.config/quickly/preferences file allows a
>> $quickly preferences command to edit them and apply instantly without
>> requiring a terminal restart.
>> """
>>
>> Anyway, the point of this email is to see what others think, since
>> this is an arguably big change.
>
> I'm not quite sure about this change. I'm all in favor that the
> get_quickly_editors() get into quickly/templatetools.py rather that
> adding another preference system.
>
> This part is an advanced use case, that is already adressed by some way
> by QUICKY_EDITOR, I think we should really focus our effort first to get
> the user/developer experience appealing (which is still not reached at
> all IMHO) for our resources than trying to add a billions of options for
> advanced usage (which are already covered in some other way).
>
> The restarting the terminal is already needed (maybe will be fixed in
> the near future btw), after installing Quickly to get shell completion
> on.
>
> Also, for a long time, I try to fight adding to much commands in Quickly
> itself so that we don't end up with a long list of commands, so really
> not sure about the preferences one. Less is more. ;)
>
> So, I think the idea of still supporting advanced use case is important
> (and that's why we added EDITOR, and then QUICKLY_EDITOR support), but
> I'm not really certain that change is relevant? Thoughts? Do we have any
> idea of people who will change the EDITOR between templates, or who will
> change the defaults?
>
> Just my 2 cents :)
>
> Didier
>
>
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