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[Amos Blanton <amos@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Miriam,

This is great! I was under the impression that there were issues with 
the pre-packaged squeak-vm on Ubuntu that prevented us from using it. 
This kept us from solving the 64 bit packaging problem.

I plan to test your package out soon but am a bit swamped at the moment 
-- have you found any problems? If it all works , I'm inclined to commit 
your packaging changes to the assembla repository and rebuild an 
"official" package based on your code. We would maintain it. You haven't 
made any changes to the Squeak code, right - just the packaging?

One thing to rule out first: Squeak changed some sound primitives in 
later versions of the VM that should break sound in current versions of 
Scratch. Not sure exactly how - maybe a pink box, or maybe it'll crash. 
But if you are using updated VMs, we should test sound thoroughly.

-Amos

On 03/14/2011 07:20 PM, Miriam Ruiz wrote:
> 2011/3/14 Amos Blanton<amos@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> > Hi Miry,
> >
> > Ah - yes  - we do plan to also offer a version of Scratch 2.0 that can be
> > downloaded so that users can still work on projects offline. It will likely
> > run as a local flash application. It's still probably about 1 year out
> > though.
> Cool! :)
>
> > Your improved package sounds great - can you say a bit about what you've
> > changed / added / fixed?
> My main concern was to make it work with pre-packaged squeak vm and
> natively in 64 bits, so I'm just compiling the plugins for whichever
> architecture it is, I got rid of all the pre-compiled stuff, and I
> added a script to properly start the image, using both the
> pre-installed plugins in the system and the scratch-specific ones. Oh,
> and the plugin names must now begin with so.*
>
> I have touched a lot of files related to the packaging, but from an
> overall view, I would say that those are the most important changes. I
> also divided the package into three: the arch-dependant stuff, the
> arch-independent stuff (aka data) and the debugging symbols (of the
> plugins). I think that's mostly all. It is still a hack, I wanted to
> package it properly and maybe upload it to Debian at some point, but
> if it is more or less unmaintained, if I did, I would probably have to
> personally take care of the bugs and the fixes and that might be too
> much work for me. But for an unofficial package I think it's quite OK
> :)
>
> In fact, I have to teach scratch to some kids, so  needed to package
> it. But to be honest that has been my first contact with Squeak and
> Scratch, so I don't consider myself capable of fixing problems on it.
> It's a very nice system though :)
>
> Greetings,
> Miry