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[Shorya Raj <rajshorya@xxxxxxxxx>]

XP users will tend to be those who are not tech savvy, or can't afford to
be tech savvy. SO, therefore, I think that it is fair to assume that the
non tech-savvy's will not be willing to use a Live CD - they have to
download an iso, downlaod software to burn to a disc and so on, not the
easiest thing to do. So, Live CD is a bad idea. Wubi is fine, but it
doesn't play nice - it favours Windows to some extent, I have seen, as it
doesn't attribute as many resources. Also, it has been unstable - it almost
ruined my laptop when I was forced to pull the plug on it.

Custom installer - well yes, it will be hard, but that is not a good reason
to not do something. It can be done, so is worth being done if someone
wants it done. Until then, Wubi could work...


Thanks
Spider


On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 9:15 AM, Michel EKIMIA <contact@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Thanks for your answer. I think Wubi is a good base as a lot of code for
> modifying the Windows bootloader is needed.
>
> First, I way be wrong but do people agree that burning a Live CD and make
> their windows PC boot on it is way to difficult for  let's say 70% of
> Windows XP users right now ?
>
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> 2013/9/24 Shorya Raj <rajshorya@xxxxxxxxx>
>
>> Hello
>> Wubi is dead - it was a nightmare before, and last time I checked it is
>> not being developed anymore. However, last time I checked, there isn't any
>> other option that is working, and working well - most of them are very much
>> experimental. Therefore, I think that at this point, we may actually be
>> forced to make our own (can't be that hard... Ok we may have to deal with a
>> bit of Assembly, but the rest of it shouldn't be that bad). But, apart from
>> Live USB/CD or Wubi, I don't think that there are too many options.
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>> Spider
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Michel EKIMIA <contact@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all, I m wondering :
>>> promoting ubuntu for Xp end is good
>>> but what if the current installation tools are not enough ?
>>> What solution can we propose as a click & click option ( No USB boot or
>>> CD)
>>> to XP users for a native ubuntu installation ?
>>>  IMO nothing for now, as Wubi is dead and is not an option anyway for
>>> good performance and long time usage.
>>> So we should check if such a tool is possible in the coming months.
>>>
>>>
>>> What I see right now for this "tool" :
>>>
>>> 1- inspired from Wubi for starting and downloading the Ubuntu Iso ( or
>>> maybe a preinstalled basic system which would be faster)
>>>
>>> 2- At first step, install a Wubi like installation tool in Windows and
>>> boot it by default using the Windows Boot manager
>>>
>>> 3- After reboot, the tool is launch in TORAM mode so it's possible to
>>> unmount the windows partition, analyse the partition scheme, and resize it
>>> to create the 2 minimum partitions needed.
>>>
>>>
>>> 4- Then start the installation with minmimum questions like Wubi did and
>>> create links from Ubuntu documents to Windows documents in some way.
>>>
>>>
>>> 5- Update the Windows Manager so only the ubuntu installed and Windows
>>> stay with ubuntu being the Default.
>>>
>>> 6- When the user is happy with Ubuntu, propose on the desktop a Final
>>> migration tool that would copy the Documents from XP to Ubuntu and resize
>>> partitions to give the maximum to ubuntu, this step would be obviously
>>> optional)
>>>
>>>
>>> let me know what you think and if this seems useful I could create a
>>> blueprint for it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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