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[Nio Wiklund <nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Israel and Jack,

- Tarball created with my own version of the OBI for precise

- Installed with my own version of the OBI for precise

This works - I can install a system where nm-applet and the shutdown
menu work.



So something is fishy with ToriOS, either with mktbl or with the
operating system itself.

I'll continue testing ...

Best regards
Nio


Den 2015-05-26 15:34, Nio Wiklund skrev:
> Hi Israel and Jack,
> 
> I'm testing right now with my own version of the OBI for precise ... I
> hope we can find the problem. I think the problem is that when the
> OBI-installer is installed into a new system, it does not work properly
> concerning permissions etc when using chroot.
> 
> My own version of the OBI for precise does not use chroot (at least not
> for the same kind of things as in ToriOS).
> 
> - Tarball created with ToriOS (current beta, May24)
> 
> - Installed with my own version of the OBI for precise
> 
> The same problem occurred with non-working nm-applet and shutdown menu.
> This makes me wonder if the problem is with the installed ToriOS systems
> - that they have some strange settings, which are not reproduced via the
> tarballs (lost either during saving or restoring).
> 
> I'll continue testing ... I'll create a tarball with my own version of
> the OBI for precise. I think zmktbl in ToriOS and mktbl in my own
> version of the OBI for precise do the same thing, but who knows.
> 
> Best regards
> Nio
> 
> Den 2015-05-26 14:20, Israel skrev:
>> Hi All,
>> I do not know.
>>
>> You are saying you download a tarball and install it, but network
>> manager does not run in Tarballs that are not ours?
>>
>> @Nio, will you test these tarballs with the older ISO you liked a lot to
>> see if they can be installed properly that way?
>>
>> That might give us a clue
>>
>> On 05/26/2015 12:56 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote:
>>> Hi Israel,
>>>
>>> I have been testing these custom tarballs and also other similar
>>> tarballs (It is easy to make tarballs with zmktbl.) I also make a
>>> compressed image file (file.img.xz) to be installed with mkusb.
>>>
>>> The systems installed with the OBI-installer and with mkusb work, but
>>> they cannot in turn install good systems via the OBI-installer. The
>>> nm-applet bug re-appears:
>>>
>>> There is (wired) network, yet nm-applet indicates no network (a red
>>> circle with a white cross).
>>>
>>> I tried these fixes:
>>> ----
>>> Apparently (not sure how) but /usr/lib/dbus-1.0/dbus-daemon-launch-helper
>>> is the problem
>>> to fix:
>>> (possibly this one)
>>> sudo chmod -x /usr/lib/dbus-1.0/dbus-daemon-launch-helper
>>>
>>> (These two for sure)
>>> sudo chmod u+s /usr/lib/dbus-1.0/dbus-daemon-launch-helper
>>> sudo chmod g+x /usr/lib/dbus-1.0/dbus-daemon-launch-helper
>>>
>>> (maybe this one)
>>> sudo chown root:messagebus /usr/lib/dbus-1.0/dbus-daemon-launch-helper
>>> ----
>>> But they do not fix the issue. What can be the problem this time?
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>> Nio
>>>
>>>
>>> Den 2015-05-25 18:00, Nio Wiklund skrev:
>>>> Hi Toriosadores,
>>>>
>>>> [Fixing an important typing error - and spell persistent correctly]
>>>>
>>>> I think the current version of ToriOS-beta.iso (May 24) is quite good,
>>>> and well worth testing and extending. So I installed two more kernels,
>>>> the 3.2 generic-pae kernel and the 3.13 generic kernel (a trusty kernel)
>>>> together with the hardware enablement stack for trusty, which comes with
>>>> the full implementation of Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS. This can be useful for
>>>> the great majority of the computers, particularly if you have some new
>>>> or middle-aged hardware, that is not recognized by the original Ubuntu
>>>> 12.04 LTS drivers.
>>>>
>>>> You can download them by selecting *Download in the OBI* or directly from
>>>>
>>>> http://phillw.net/isos/linux-tools/torios/2015-05/
>>>>
>>>> 1. ToriOSmay24-3ker.tar.xz (491M)
>>>>
>>>> The first tarball is quite similar to the original one, with only a few
>>>> added packages. An important addition is fake-pae, that makes it
>>>> possible to run the system of this tarball with Pentium M and Celeron M
>>>> processors, that have PAE capability but no PAE flag. I have tested that
>>>> it works in my IBM Thinkpad T42 laptop with a Pentium M CPU.
>>>>
>>>> 2. ToriOShuge3ker.tar.xz (812M)
>>>>
>>>> The second tarball was built from the first one by adding several
>>>> application program packages, so that it is possible to perform many
>>>> standard tasks without installing any extra programs.
>>>>
>>>> See the (last modified) pictures at
>>>>
>>>> http://phillw.net/isos/linux-tools/torios/pictures/
>>>>
>>>> The very last picture illustrates the available application programs.
>>>>
>>>> http://phillw.net/isos/linux-tools/torios/pictures/25-applications_in-huge3ker.png
>>>>
>>>> -o-
>>>>
>>>> In order to download tarballs to the OBI in ToriOS live, you need to
>>>> have somewhere to store it (not where you intend to install from it).
>>>>
>>>> 1. If you boot from a CD disk or an mkusb-made USB drive, I recommend
>>>> that you create a partition on a third drive, for example a USB drive.
>>>> Put the label *live-rw* onto that partition, and create an ext2 file system.
>>>>
>>>> Then (re)boot into ToriOS live, press TAB and add the boot option
>>>> *persistent* at the end of the boot line and continue.
>>>>
>>>> 2. If you create a boot USB pendrive with Unetbootin, you must rename
>>>> the file casper-rw to live-rw
>>>>
>>>> Change directory to where you have that file an run
>>>>
>>>> mv casper-rw live-rw
>>>>
>>>> -o-
>>>>
>>>> You can install ToriOSmay24-3ker.tar.xz or ToriOShuge3ker.tar.xz into a
>>>> USB pendrive. If it is a fast USB pendrive, you will get quite good
>>>> performance also in USB 2 ports. These are portable systems, that work
>>>> well in many computers (but might have problems to boot in some
>>>> middle-aged hp computers, that need chainloading to boot via grub in USB).
>>>>
>>>> I tested them today, so I know that they works in different computers.
>>>> And you can use the OBI in these systems to install ToriOS in the
>>>> internal drives of computers. As a matter of fact, these tarballs make
>>>> systems that are similar to the original One Button Installer.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Happy testing :-)
>>>>
>>>> Best regards
>>>> Nio
>>>>
>>
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