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Re: Added GTK discussion as well Re: PAE discussion

 

Den 2016-02-01 kl. 15:45, skrev Israel:
> On 02/01/2016 12:43 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote:
>> ...
>> .
>>
>> Hi Israel,
>>
>> I think it is rather important to make it easy to get a PAE kernel,
>> because I think many people will try ToriOS in computers with more than
>> 2 GB RAM. Extremely few computers lack PAE capability. Some have it but
>> lack the PAE flag (Pentium M and Celeron M), and they can use fakepae
>> (old method) and the boot option forcepae (new method, with kernel 3.13
>> and newer, so available in Ubuntu Trusty and Debian Jessie).
>>
>> An alternative is to provide two tarballs (and hence two iso files).
>>
>> 1. An iso file with a non-pae kernel in the live system as well as in
>> the tarball.
>>
>> 2. An iso file with a PAE kernel in the live system as well as in the
>> tarball.
>>
>> -o-
>>
>> *. We have not addressed computers running in UEFI mode at all. But
>> sooner or later we have to do that.
>>
>> Best regards
>> Nio
> 
> Hi Nio,
> AFAIK it is working fine.
> Did you try it and it *not* work?
> The only thing that doesn't work is the progress indicator.
> I tried a few ways, but I could not reliably get it to work, and had
> other things of more importance
> 
> Also,
> I posted on G+ to Numix about our issue with checkboxes, so hopefully we
> get some attention and a fix soon..... or an indication that GNOME has
> simply continued on the path to make GTK inaccessable outside 'their'
> environment.  I am a little dissapointed with the changes to the newer
> GTK API, as well as the systemd API breaking old APIs (like upower)....
> but to a normal user it wont matter as long as things work on their end
> :P  just programmers have these issues.
> 

Hi Israel,
I think we are misunderstanding each other. I read your previous
description such that ToriOS fails to install the PAE kernel. Now I
think you write that only the progress indicator fails, which is a much
smaller issue.

Trying again, I get the oscillating indicator 'Installing PAE kernel'.

Maybe a kernel was installed, but in that case it is the same non-pae
kernel. After installation I have only a non-pae kernel in the installed
system :-(

The other installed systems are not found. (They are found when running
sudo update-grub in the installed system. This problem occurs sometimes,
but not always, maybe when I have tried to install a PAE kernel as part
of the installer script.)

And as I wrote earlier,

sudo apt-get install linux-image-686-pae

will install the PAE kernel into the installed system (after booting
into it).

-o-

There is a real problem with the non-pae kernel: It does not manage the
RAM correctly when there is more than 2 GB (RAM). Many ageing computers
have 3 or 4 GB RAM nowadays and we can expect that several people will
test ToriOS in such computers.

-o-

Let us hope you get a good response at the Numix forum.

Best regards
Nio


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