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[Nio Wiklund <nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx>]

Den 2016-12-15 kl. 20:58, skrev Nio Wiklund:
> Den 2016-12-13 kl. 09:06, skrev Nio Wiklund:
> > Den 2016-12-13 kl. 04:37, skrev Israel:
> > > Hi Nio
> > > (inlines)
> > > On 12/12/2016 03:42 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote:
> > > > Den 2016-12-11 kl. 15:16, skrev Israel:
> > ...
> > > > I managed to get wired connection, but I did not see the wireless
> > > > network, which I expect to see in some of the available computers (for
> > > > example my Toshiba laptop, where I do a lot of testing). Is this a
> > > > bug, or should I look 'somewhere else' to find it?
> > > Hmmm... not sure.  If you tested it in VBox this is something that has
> > > happened before.  In my KVM machine it sees my wireless as a wired
> > > connection.
> > > If it is on real hardware, then this could be a bug
> >
> > Yes, tested on metal in my Toshiba, so probably a bug.
> >
> > Best regards
> > Nio
>
> Hi Israel,
>
> I am testing the new iso file dated Dec 15 in my Toshiba laptop with
> Intel i5 and Intel graphics (as usual).
>
> *A. Running live*
>
> 1. Now it is a hybrid iso file :-)
>
> 2. But I still cannot connect via wifi. (Ethernet works.)
>
> Maybe I don't understand how to activate it. Please explain if it works
> for you.
>
> 3. The touchpad seems dead. I rebooted and still no touchpad.
>
> *B. Installing*
>
> 1. the basic OBI level works
>
> 2. the advanced level (and gparted) works. Grub found the previous
> system :-)
>
> *To do: Test with low RAM*
>
>
> *C. Installed system*
>
> 1. Wifi works in the installed system :-)
>
> 2. Restart (in the quadruplet) lacks an icon, but it works.
>
> 3. The touchpad seems dead (in the installed system too). I rebooted and
> still no touchpad.
>
>
> So there are some improvements, but also some things that no longer works.
>
>
> Best regards
> Nio

Hi again Israel,

I continue with the test report, now from VirtualBox:


*1. Boot and install with minimum RAM.*

vbox: mem=192m ok, 128m & 160m kernel panic at boot, 192m advanced OBI 
level ok

I limited the RAM available with the boot option mem.

*mem=160m*

Kernel panic at boot. This happens while text is written to the screen.

*mem=192m*

ToriOS live boot into the desktop environment, and it is possible to run 
the OBI installer as well as gparted. I tested at the basic OBI level 
and at the advanced OBI level.

Installing the pae kernel works too.

This means that the current compression of the tarball does not increase 
the minimum RAM level.


*2. The time is offset by one hour in the installed system.*

The utc time is wrong as seen by

date -u

(one hour ahead of the real utc). I tested in the same virtual machine, 
and Lubuntu 14.04 (also installed) is not affected by this bug.

The live system runs in utc and 'looks' ok (here this time of the year 
because of the one hour difference to my local time), but it is also wrong.


*3. I installed into the Toshiba again, this time with mem=192m*

It seems that the time bug is only affecting VBox - It is correct in my 
Toshiba.

The computer booted, gparted and the installer worked.

*4. ToriOS installed works with mem=128m*

Just for testing I tried to boot the installed system (as it is, with 
the JWM window manager and the whole ToriOS desktop environment). It 
boots and runs. OK, it needs some swapping, but works. htop indicates 67 
MB swap used, as illustrated with the screenshot (faint contrast, but 
you should see it at the correct viewing angle).

This system could be installed in text mode (for example with the 
original One Button Installer, or if cloned into a compressed image file 
and installed with mkusb-nox or dus) or simply installed to the drive in 
another computer with more RAM and moved to the low-RAM computer afterwards.

Would it be useful - would anyone want to use it for practical purposes? 
Maybe for simple word processing and communication via a simple mail 
client. Probably it is useful only as a demo of what is possible.


*5. Tested in my IBM Thinkpad with Pentium M*

5.1 I could verify the limits for RAM also in this old computer. It 
works with 192 MB (but not with 160 MB: kernel panic at boot).

5.2 I noticed a difference: here I got the *firstrun* features, things 
to install and an offer to update the standard folders to my current 
language. (These showed up neither in VirtualBox nor in my Toshiba).

5.3 And there is a trashcan on the desktop (it is missing in the 
Toshiba, I checked (and I think in VirtualBox too)).

(The wifi is available in the installed system, which was also the case 
in the Toshiba).


*Summary concerning RAM - 192 MB RAM*

This version of ToriOS runs live, can be installed and works installed 
with 192 MB RAM.

But for the internet with many bloated web pages you need

- at least 512 MB RAM for fair browsing quality
- at least 1.0 GB RAM for good browsing quality


Best regards
Nio

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