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[Ali Linx <amjjawad@xxxxxxxxxx>]

On 02/12/2014 06:36 PM, Israel wrote:
> On 02/12/2014 02:47 AM, Ali Linx wrote:
> > On 02/12/2014 08:14 AM, Israel wrote:
> > > On 02/11/2014 02:51 PM, Ali Linx wrote:
> > > > On 02/11/2014 11:58 PM, joern.schoenyan@xxxxxx wrote:
> > > > > Am Dienstag, 11. Februar 2014, 23:54:05 schrieb Ali Linx:
> > > > > > On 02/11/2014 10:21 PM, Ali Linx wrote:
> > > > > > > Hello everyone,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Kindly treat this Email as Top and High Priority :)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Please note there is no other task, as of now, that is more 
> > > > > > > important
> > > > > > > than this:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > https://blueprints.launchpad.net/torios/+spec/de-wm
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We do need to move forward ASAP!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Again, please treat this as the one and only very high priority and
> > > > > > > everything else can wait.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thank you!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > P.S.
> > > > > > > Hint: Here is how to find out what task is on high priority and 
> > > > > > > which
> > > > > > > one is less priority: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/torios
> > > > > > +Jörn Schönyan <https://plus.google.com/106068005741725699939> has
> > > > > > shared his tests result on Facebook so I am sharing it here:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "The screenshot shows Debian Testing with JWM, running with 32 
> > > > > > Megs of
> > > > > > RAM (30 Megs when measured on tty2). This is net-install of Debian
> > > > > > Testing, JWM and X. And just the most important tools: htop, nano,
> > > > > > xterm. No File Manager and No Network Manager but no big deal"
> > > > > >
> > > > > > See the attached screenshot :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This is very interesting :D?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > @Jorn
> > > > > > I am sending this on your behalf so please add more information 
> > > > > > if you
> > > > > > have any to share with the team ;)
> > > > > Thank you, I'm quite busy today :-)
> > > > NO :D
> > > > THANK YOU for the great work and the great news :D :D :D
> > > >
> > > > @Everyone
> > > > Look what Jorn has found :D
> > > >
> > > > http://imghost4you.com/?v=debianjess.png
> > > >
> > > > WOW!!!!!
> >
> > Hi :)
> > > I get something pretty similar doing almost the same thing on my 
> > > Power PC.  I, however, use ROX for a file manager (and it also 
> > > handles the desktop icons/background image).  So, with ROX, added to 
> > > the mix, I think we can theme JWM up to be comfortable to Windows 
> > > Refugees.  The hardest part about JWM is configuring the panel, 
> > > etc...  though the file is a simple xml type file...
> >
> > The whole point is not duplicate the work that one of us has already 
> > done :) the point is to try something 'totally' different that what 
> > one of us has done.
> >
> > Jorn tried Debian + JWM so all of us need to try something totally 
> > different. Totally different WM.
> >
> > Last night, Melodie send me this on IRC:
> > http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=18273&p=1
> >
> > It might help us :)
>
> The MAIN thing to consider is which one will be supported in the 
> future.  Unless we have someone here that would be willing to go 
> through the code and fix bugs themselves, and send security patches, 
> and updates.

Very good and valid point. That is why I updated the blueprint to 
reflect this important note:
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/torios/+spec/de-wm

> Here are a few links that I think are worth a look as well...
> https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=684646#p684646
> And a wikipedia Page
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stacking_window_manager
> We definitely want a Stacking Window Manager, as opposed to a Tiling 
> WM (in my opinion) so as not to completely confuse new users.

*+1**
**Definitely Stacking Window manager, no doubt about that* :)

> I will try and go through the light ones and find out which are still 
> supported, and what-not.

So nice and kind of you, thank you :)

> > > JWM was going to be my choice for WM ('DE') too... so I am not sure 
> > > what to try that will even come close.  I suppose IceWM might.... 
> > > but JWM seems to be the lightest one I have ever used.
> > Just choose whatever you wish but don't go for JWM :D
> > Again, the point of these emails is to keep everyone posted about 
> > what one of us has chosen so the others can avoid his/her very choice ;)
> Alright when I get it up and running I will clone it and try a few out 
> to see what I think about each one.  Before I make my 'final' choice :)

Go for it :D



> > > I have been having some issues making a VM from that ISO... and I 
> > > can't figure out why.... the LiveCD hangs up after I get to a 
> > > certain point, and there is no indication of network or HD 
> > > activity....  Anyone else had that issue?
> >
> > I don't have any issue with Ubuntu 12.04 Mini ISO and Oracle VM :)
> > I don't use any media, I just ask the VM to read the ISO as a LiveCV 
> > within the VM and that is all. Never had problems.
> Yeah... I did that same thing (used the iso as a 'liveCD')  but it 
> hung out without indicating any activity... so I guess I will just 
> start it and leave it for a while and see what happens after an hour 
> or so...

That is very weird. Yes, I have read somewhere else off this list that 
it is happening but in my case, everything was fine.

http://amjjawad.blogspot.com/2013/07/ubuntu-mini-iso-installation-process.html

Not only once, I made 2-3 VMs with the same ISO and everything was fine!


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