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[Israel <israel@xxxxxxxxxx>]

On 02/12/2014 02:47 AM, Ali Linx wrote:
> On 02/12/2014 08:14 AM, Israel wrote:
> > On 02/11/2014 02:51 PM, Ali Linx wrote:
> > > On 02/11/2014 11:58 PM, joern.schoenyan@xxxxxx wrote:
> > > > Am Dienstag, 11. Februar 2014, 23:54:05 schrieb Ali Linx:
> > > > > On 02/11/2014 10:21 PM, Ali Linx wrote:
> > > > > > Hello everyone,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kindly treat this Email as Top and High Priority :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Please note there is no other task, as of now, that is more 
> > > > > > important
> > > > > > than this:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://blueprints.launchpad.net/torios/+spec/de-wm
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We do need to move forward ASAP!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Again, please treat this as the one and only very high priority and
> > > > > > everything else can wait.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thank you!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > P.S.
> > > > > > Hint: Here is how to find out what task is on high priority and 
> > > > > > which
> > > > > > one is less priority: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/torios
> > > > > +Jörn Schönyan <https://plus.google.com/106068005741725699939> has
> > > > > shared his tests result on Facebook so I am sharing it here:
> > > > >
> > > > > "The screenshot shows Debian Testing with JWM, running with 32 
> > > > > Megs of
> > > > > RAM (30 Megs when measured on tty2). This is net-install of Debian
> > > > > Testing, JWM and X. And just the most important tools: htop, nano,
> > > > > xterm. No File Manager and No Network Manager but no big deal"
> > > > >
> > > > > See the attached screenshot :)
> > > > >
> > > > > This is very interesting :D?
> > > > >
> > > > > @Jorn
> > > > > I am sending this on your behalf so please add more information if 
> > > > > you
> > > > > have any to share with the team ;)
> > > > Thank you, I'm quite busy today :-)
> > > NO :D
> > > THANK YOU for the great work and the great news :D :D :D
> > >
> > > @Everyone
> > > Look what Jorn has found :D
> > >
> > > http://imghost4you.com/?v=debianjess.png
> > >
> > > WOW!!!!!
>
> Hi :)
> > I get something pretty similar doing almost the same thing on my 
> > Power PC.  I, however, use ROX for a file manager (and it also 
> > handles the desktop icons/background image).  So, with ROX, added to 
> > the mix, I think we can theme JWM up to be comfortable to Windows 
> > Refugees.  The hardest part about JWM is configuring the panel, 
> > etc...  though the file is a simple xml type file...
>
> The whole point is not duplicate the work that one of us has already 
> done :) the point is to try something 'totally' different that what 
> one of us has done.
>
> Jorn tried Debian + JWM so all of us need to try something totally 
> different. Totally different WM.
>
> Last night, Melodie send me this on IRC:
> http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=18273&p=1
>
> It might help us :)

The MAIN thing to consider is which one will be supported in the 
future.  Unless we have someone here that would be willing to go through 
the code and fix bugs themselves, and send security patches, and updates.

Here are a few links that I think are worth a look as well...
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=684646#p684646
And a wikipedia Page
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stacking_window_manager
We definitely want a Stacking Window Manager, as opposed to a Tiling WM 
(in my opinion) so as not to completely confuse new users.
I will try and go through the light ones and find out which are still 
supported, and what-not.



> > JWM was going to be my choice for WM ('DE') too... so I am not sure 
> > what to try that will even come close.  I suppose IceWM might.... but 
> > JWM seems to be the lightest one I have ever used.
> Just choose whatever you wish but don't go for JWM :D
> Again, the point of these emails is to keep everyone posted about what 
> one of us has chosen so the others can avoid his/her very choice ;)
Alright when I get it up and running I will clone it and try a few out 
to see what I think about each one.  Before I make my 'final' choice :)

> > I have been having some issues making a VM from that ISO... and I 
> > can't figure out why.... the LiveCD hangs up after I get to a certain 
> > point, and there is no indication of network or HD activity....  
> > Anyone else had that issue?
>
> I don't have any issue with Ubuntu 12.04 Mini ISO and Oracle VM :)
> I don't use any media, I just ask the VM to read the ISO as a LiveCV 
> within the VM and that is all. Never had problems.
Yeah... I did that same thing (used the iso as a 'liveCD')  but it hung 
out without indicating any activity... so I guess I will just start it 
and leave it for a while and see what happens after an hour or so...