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Re: The Technical Side of ToriOS
On 05/22/2014 06:24 PM, Hylas De niall wrote:
Hello Hylas,
Count me in for graphics work if you need things like wallpapers etc.
As i mentioned i'm not a coder or translator sadly.
As to the points raised above, i would say this (my preference)
If you're really interested with Artwork Stuff, then maybe it is a good
idea to talk with Rafael Laguna. He is Lubuntu Artwork Team Leader and
very good friend of myself and many other people here. He has done the
Logo of ToriOS and I'm sure he will help with the rest of the stuff we
need. So, I think he will be happy if he will team up with you :)
Base it on 14.04 - most folk, even on old machines would want the
latest and greatest
Not really :)
These two is super hard to achieve. Old machine and have the latest?
it's just an overkill. Yes, Lubuntu 14.04 is using the latest but
Lubuntu is not for 'very' old machines. I have tested that so many times
... you need minimum 512MB if you wish to open YouTube, Facebook or
Gmail. Your machine will have hard time with two open tabs. I've been 2
years testers for Lubuntu and I proved that many times :D it is not the
system that has the problem, it is everything around us these days is
resource hungry. They simply expect you to have the latest hardware ...
they don't think about those poor guys with old machines.
I came up with the idea of ToriOS because I'm very interested to draw a
smile on someone's face who has an old machine but about to trash it
because there is no system that could make it useful again.
Yes, let's be realistic here. The real difference between ToriOS and
Lubuntu is not that ToriOS will be a superman compared to Lubuntu. The
real difference is ... while Lubuntu is eating around 100MB more or less
from the RAM, we promise that ToriOS will eat much less. With this, the
system will have more RAM for more running tasks. Here is the real
difference between ToriOS and Lubuntu.
The other difference is ToriOS will always be LTS and should support
Non-PAE CPUs.
One more difference. ToriOS will only have very few installed packages.
It is for those who wish to build their own system as they like and for
those with very old machines who only wants to do very few tasks.
YES to the 12 month release cycle.
Good, 3 votes so far ;)
Folk coming from XP would be shocked at the amt of reinstalls/system
updates on Linux.
Somehow true considering the 6 months cycle but upgrading/updating
GNU/Linux is so much different from updating/upgrading Microsoft Windows ;)
Suggest try as hard as possible to keep the iso 'CD-sized' for old
machines.
Yes, 3 votes here too :D
Is Sourceforge still a good site to host it? I nderstand they're fine
unless your file is 1gig and over.
Not sure. Never used it to host any ISO before.
I'd suggest just Alpha, Beta, RC and Release versioning.
Good :)
As I wrote on the previous email, I'm okay with that unless our
developer(s) has/have different opinion!
I have been thinking about ToriOS identity (and snagged the 1920x1920
png final logo) and would like to suggest the use of the Japanese
White-Eye songbird as a possible base for wallpaper designs (or even
logo if the team decide to change the existing one).
It is too early to talk about the default wallpaper but if I have to
state my opinion, I'd say the Logo of ToriOS in the middle and that is
all. But we can include other Wallpapers for sure.
Also a couple of questions from me:
1) Is it still decided to use IceWM (if so i could look into how to
theme it).
Nothing yet confirmed.
2) Are the colours used in the final logo final colours that i should
use in any designs i do?
Are we talking about this?
http://torios.org/img/FinalLogo.svg
If yes, then these are the final and the official logo of ToriOS.
3) What is the typeface used in the logo?
Typeface? you mean the font name?
Cheers!
Thank you!
On Thursday, 22 May 2014, 12:48, Ali Linx <amjjawad@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hola amigos,
Hope everyone is fine and not sick like the poor me (nasty flu),
Before I start taking any decision or creating any new blueprint, I'd
like (as I always used to do with all my projects) to think loudly with
my family (you) so let's see how this will develop :)
ATTENTION:
These are just ideas ... NOTHING yet confirmed :)
1- ToriOS is supporting Non-PAE machines by default - we have already
agreed on that - just a reminder.
2- ToriOS is always an LTS - we too agreed on that as well - just a
reminder.
3- ToriOS will be released every 12 months NOT every 6 months like
Ubuntu - new idea.
4- ToriOS 1.0 is based on 12.04 LTS - we have discussed that before but
didn't yet 100% agree on.
5- ToriOS 2.0 will be based on 14.04 LTS
6- nm-manager should not be used as far as I have read so far from
different people all of them confirmed the big RAM eater is nm-manager.
7- While we're targeting low hardware machines (32-bit), shouldn't we
also think of those who wish to try ToriOS on more powerful machine
(64bit)? if that so, we need two builds: i386 and amd64.
8- I need the Wiki and Docs team to write each and every post, not only
about the system, how to use it, system requirement, etc ... no ... I'm
planning to document the steps that we have done to create this or will
create this system and YES, I mean the technical side so I guess both
the docs and devs guys need to work side by side if you agree on this.
9- 60MB or 50MB? don't want to kill ourselves but if we could do that,
why not? I guess you know what I'm talking about :)
10- Have we thought about the ISO size? any idea how big will it be?
around 300MB? 400MB? less or more? AFAIK, it should never reach say
600MB, right?
11- Where are we going to host the ISOs? do we have a host for that?
12- As long as ToriOS is based on Ubuntu, we can test it on Virtual
Machine such as OracleVB, correct?
13- By any chance, do we need to talk with Ubuntu/Canonical team about
our Project? I mean is there any kind of approval or stuff like that we
need? I'm talking about the technical side of our project as they should
have nothing to do with the other stuff but maybe they do with the
technical side, that is why I'm asking and we need to know IMHO.
14- Alpha 1, Alpha 2, Beta 1, Beta 2 and RC? or no need for that? should
we just do Alpha, Beta and RC? these are milestones just like what
Ubuntu GNOME or Lubuntu are doing when it comes to the development cycle.
15- I know it is hard to tell at this point but any idea when ToriOS 1.0
will be available to download and use? I know I'm the one who should
announce that but if truth to be told, it is something that our devs
should advise for and we haven't yet done anything serious.
Okay, I guess that is all for now ...
I have another ideas/Qs to think of loudly with you but that is for
another email as these are the non-technical stuff and should be on
different email :)
Thank you!
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