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[Nio Wiklund <nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx>]

2014-05-27 12:14, Ali Linx skrev:
> 
> On 05/22/2014 04:48 PM, Nio Wiklund wrote:
>> 2014-02-13 07:16, Nio Wiklund skrev:
>>> 2014-02-12 21:33, Ali Linx skrev:
>>>> On 02/09/2014 12:26 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote:
>>>>> 2014-02-08 19:16, Ali Linx skrev:
>>>>>> Hi Nio,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hope this email will find you well :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I guess you're very busy these days that you didn't yet put your
>>>>>> hands
>>>>>> with ToriOS ;)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd like to ask you since you're the founder of OBI :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/torios/+spec/default-installer
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is it correct that OBI is not useful with ISO files?
>>>>>> Obviously, we are going to have an ISO file and on the above
>>>>>> Blueprint,
>>>>>> we need to find out what 'Installer' are we going to use and as I
>>>>>> promised ages ago that I will try OBI and haven't yet (you know I
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> no time), to keep my promise, I had a thought to make OBI the default
>>>>>> installer for ToriOS but as per the whiteboard, it might not be
>>>>>> possible.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We need you to enlighten us :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Ali and all [other] fellow torios,
>>>> Hello Nio,
>>>>
>>>> I am totally lost between Thunderbird with 5 Emails accounts and
>>>> between
>>>> Gmail and 100 or more emails daily and between Firefox and Chromium and
>>>> billions of open tabs O_o
>>>> I guess I need a machine for each project :(
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, sorry for the late reply :)
>>>>
>>>>> The OBI itself is a package of shell scripts and the 'dialog' software
>>>>> package. Now it is run in 'an installed system' which is portable, and
>>>>> is normally installed in USB pendrives. It needs writeable media and
>>>>> file-systems, so it cannot run in the standard live ISO way from
>>>>> CD/DVD.
>>>>> The ISO 9660 file system is read-only.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have been talking to Jörn about installing the OBI into a system
>>>>> that
>>>>> can be converted to an ISO file for a 'normal' live system. Such a
>>>>> system would satisfy your requirements, but we are not there yet.
>>>>> So if
>>>>> you have to decide the installer for Tori now or soon,
>>>>
>>>>> the answer is
>>>>> *no* the OBI is not a candidate to install it.
>>>> Ok, thanks for your reply. As of this very moment, OBI is 'NO' use for
>>>> ToriOS :)
>>>>
>>>> Keep us updated please in case this will change in the near future ;)
>>>>
>>>>> Best regards
>>>>> Nio
>>>> Thank you :)
>>>>
>>>> P.S.
>>>> @Israel @Paul and @Smile4ever
>>>> We need to make sure this will reflect on our Wiki and Website so that
>>>> we won't confuse ourselves nor anyone who will view our sites and I
>>>> shall update the thread on Ubuntu Forums :)
>>>>
>>>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2200017
>>>>
>>> As long as the installer of Tori must be an ISO file, the answer is no,
>>> because the OBI does not come with an ISO file.
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>> Nio
>>>
>> Hi again,
> 
> Hello Nio,
> 
>>
>> It is ready now :-)
>>
>> OBI-9w is a version of the One Button Installer, that can install from
>> CD, DVD and USB drives. See this link
>>
>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/9w#Ubuntu_14.04_LTS_text_non-pae_.27Trusty-npae124-text.iso.27_and_.27obi_Trusty-npae124-text-9w.iso.27
>>
>>
>> at the 9w wiki page
>>
>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/9w
> 
> In short, are you saying that ToriOS now can use your installer? :D
> really? :D
> 
>> Best regards
>> Nio
> 
Yes, an OBI-9w iso will definitely work from DVD and USB. It depends on
the size of the image, if there will be space enough in a CD disk.

If it is close to the limit, it is possible to skip some software, and
maybe have a convenient way (a menu or desktop file) to easily install
it, like it is also possible to let the end user install restricted
software for hardware and for multimedia after the system is installed.

You can try in a virtual machine what is already uploaded at Phill's server.

-o-

I can start when I get an iso or if it does not exist yet, some simple
image of the installed test version of ToriOS. Reading that the iso file
is or will be around 500 MB is very promising. I think I can make an
OBI-9w installer within CD size. And I know that it will need less RAM
to install compared to the conventional installers.

Best regards
Nio