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[Israel <israel@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi everyone (bottom)
On 11/09/2014 02:28 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote:
> Den 2014-11-09 08:58, Ali/amjjawad skrev:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Just thinking loudly here ...
>>
>> While ToriOS is made for very old machines, it's still can be used for newer ones.
>>
>> Some features might be missing for whatever reason (CD size limit, etc..) so, is it possible to add a script or a code to check the physical RAM on the target machine? 
>>
>> IF RAM = xxxMB THEN
>> ...
>> ELSE
>> ...
>>
>> For example (again, just thinking loudly): 
>>
>> if RAM=1024MB then use Ubiquity 
>>
>> Else use OBI 
>>
>> Just a crazy idea :) 
>>
>> Thank you!
>> Sent from my smartphone.
>>
> Hi Ali and all,
>
> Yes it is possible, but ubiquity will compete with the disk space within
> the CD size. It might be a better idea to supply two iso files,
>
> - one iso file for really old computers, where booting from CD is
> necessary, and/or where the RAM is so small, that ubiquity does not work.
>
> - and one iso file for other computers, where booting from DVD and USB
> is possible.
>
> We can add a lot of packages to the second iso file. It will probably be
> enough with approximately 1 GB, but I would say the limit is 4 GB for
> such an iso file.
>
> -o-
>
> On the other hand: For people who are not familiar with ubiquity, I
> think it is at least as easy to use the OBI. Or can be: if you think
> something is not intuitive, the work flow can be improved, better
> explained, or some text improved.
>
> Best regards
> Nio
>
I think the only way we could do this is if the OBI was radically changed.
The only way we could do this is if we built an alternate Ubiquity for
low-end computers.
Something that used all the di scripts (di = Debian Installer) but
functioned from much less memory... maybe just using Zenity dialogs or
something like xmessage dialogs.
I think (not 100% sure here) Ubiquity is Python... so even remaking
Ubiquity in C or C++ could improve memory consumption... if it is a
Python program.

For this first release we have to go a bit 'Warty Warthog' on it.  We
need to simply get something out that works really well and does not
have bugs.

If Nio can figure out how to make persistence possible in an OBI system
we should use it!  That would make things much nicer and we could make
it 'persistent'.
It would be nice to offer this in mkusb for normal Ubuntu distros and
have it tie in to their system, though I think that would be something
for a much later version of mkusb.

Also, I'd like to mention if anyone is using something other than mkusb
to make usb versions of ToriOS please switch to mkusb.  It is MUCH
faster and very accurate.  You have been wasting too much of your
precious time using something else.  mkusb takes around half the time
(hmm... maybe much less that that....) to make a bootable USB from an ISO.
If you have ToriOS installed on something you have mkusb installed.  It
is very fast error free and lightweight.  I get much better results for
every thing that boots a USB.

-- 
Regards

-Israel
ToriOS Team