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["Jack T." <jackt@xxxxxxxxxx>]

On Sat, December 20, 2014 7:42 pm, Israel wrote:
> On 12/19/2014 03:54 AM, Jack T. wrote:
>
>> On Wed, December 17, 2014 9:41 pm, Israel wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> this is more of an e-mail to sort out my thoughts.
>>>
>>> The main issue we are facing is connectivity.
>>> There are two main options here.
>>> Use one of the applets (which do not seem to want to work correctly)
>>> possibly making the base install larger (not too much of a problem) or
>>> do something else.
>>>
>>> SO, if we do something else we need someone who is more of an expert
>>> in setting up networks in Linux.  The current network applets cost us
>>> memory to the tune of 5ish MB.  This is not a huge deal, however they
>>> don't work correctly... so this is a huge deal. If someone knows a way
>>> to scan for wireless networks from the terminal and log into them
>>> without a network applet (like you might do on the Mini ISO aside from
>>> editing /etc/network/interfaces though that could be
>>> a fine choice as it is a normal file read by the computer on
>>> startup... though it does cause Ubuntu to boot slowly if the network
>>> is not currently available....) that would be great.  It is very easy
>>> to make a simple dialog list in zenity and allow the choice to be
>>> passed on to something else.  We could make a script that when you
>>> click the icon for networking it does all the fancy stuff and
>>> populates the list.... then when you click it it connects you... and
>>> you can have that saved to do automatically (by including a custom
>>> startup script which would be all generated and handled automatically)
>>>
>>>
>>> Does anyone know how feasible this is?  I am thinking Nio or Jörn
>>> have a better idea about whether or not this is possible, or if it
>>> would be a waste of time to try to save a few MB of RAM.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Regards
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Israel
>>> ToriOS Team
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>> Hey Israel,
>>
>>
>> I'm not sure if this will help look for solutions, but 4MLinux seems a
>> neat small fast JWM implementation; maybe worth a look for how things
>> have been implemented for some of your remaining tasks...
>>
>> http://4mlinux.com/index.php?page=home
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> JackT.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> Hi Jack,
> I went to the site and started looking around at their sourceforge site
> and the files they have there... it will take me some time to go through
> their stuff and look at everything.  There may be some useful stuff, but I
> don't know.  I have never used it, but it seems to be built very minimally
> from source, so they may do some things very differently than we can.
> They also use some tools (from my brief exploration) that are
> no longer maintained, such as iDesk...
>
> Puppy is a similar situation where they use things that are very out of
> date, and also Puppy runs normally as root... so any of these things we use
> will most likely require modification.
>
> If you have the time to contact the developers and find out what scripts
> they have created, or simply test their OS, and hunt out those files
> yourself I'd be interested.  Currently I do not have the time to go
> checking into this as much as I'd like.
>
> I am fairly busy trying to get jwm-settings-manager ready for the final
> ToriOS, and also trying to build the Beta, and maintain the scripts and
> configurations as things change (new functionalities, different programs,
> etc...)  IF there is a good ready made wireless/wired network script that
> can be modified to work on Ubuntu as a normal user I'd be glad to look at
> it and modify it, as that will lighten up our Memory footprint.  But as
> Nio pointed out a few days back, we do need all the
> functionality we can have, such as displaying available wireless networks,
> and offering auto-connect for hotspots that are used frequently or when
> the ethernet cable is plugged in. Puppy has some network tools that do
> this very well.  But again my time is limited, and I am trying to get the
> jwm-settings-manager up to par for a real release.
>
> --
> Regards
>
>
> -Israel
> ToriOS Team
>
>
>

Hi israel,

Thank you for your reply.  I appreciate the time you've taken to take a
brief look.  I'm not that well qualified to investigate things at the
level of detail you need (even though I was a programmer some decades
ago).  Just trying to provide a little assistance where I can.  You are
doing incredible work and without too much help (apart from Nio who always
gets an honourable mention).  Take care of your priorities and keep your
life in balance.  Don't burn yourself out on this project and its tasks. 
Take care my friend.

JackT.