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[Israel <israel@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Jack!
I am not sure about this...
If I have time to look I will.  We have a fairly major issue in OBI we
**need** to track down.

If you want to take a crack at looking some information up, and find
some links you can send them my way, otherwise it may take me a while to
get to it.

Nio suggested using Sakura because it is small and does lots of nice
things... but before hand I had never used it... so I really know very
little about it.  It has tabs and transparency... which are the only two
things I like to have :)


On 06/08/2015 11:58 AM, Cinque Port Computers wrote:
> Hi Israel,
>
> I have noticed for a while now that on a fresh install, if I change
> any properties/preferences of Sakura, the changes always get lost
> after a first logout or reboot.  If I make them again, they persist. 
> I like to change cursor shape, make it blinking, and make colour of
> foreground #00FF00 (green).  Just a small nuisance but it seems to be
> a constant behaviour that maybe we can look into without too much trouble?
>
> I change the Sakura prefs by doing a right-click by the way.  I know
> there is probably a file somewhere I could edit initially but that is
> not an action an average user will take.
>
> Getting closer.
>
> Cheers,
> jackT.
>
>
>
>
> Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2015 18:44:58 +0200
> From: nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx
> To: israel@xxxxxxxxxx
> CC: torios@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [Torios] zsync the ISO time
>
> Hi Israel,
> [inline]
> Best regards
> Nio
>  
> Den 2015-06-08 14:40, Israel skrev:
> > Hi Nio,
> > (inlines and snipping)
> > 
> > On 06/08/2015 03:43 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote:
> >> Den 2015-06-07 15:06, Israel skrev:> Hi everyone,
> >>> ..
> >> I did not see the plymouth splash in the live session.
> > I will make sure to add it!
> > 
> >> Bugs(?)
> >>
> >> 1. menu://applications in pcmanfm shows nothing this time. I suggest
> >> again to use
> >>
> >> ln -s /usr/share/applications/ $HOME/Desktop
> >>
> >> which should 'just work' instead of the flaky 'menu://applications'
> > 
> > Alright I will build the next ISO with this
> >> 2. 'Shutdown now' and 'Restart Computer' from the pulldown menu in the
> >> right top corner act directly without any (extra) submenu, which is
> >> different from before. 'Logout' seems to do pretty much the same thing
> >> as 'Reload Desktop'. Is it by intention or a bug?
> > I modified the menus so the next build should work better/be more intuitive.
>  
> So by intention. OK :-)
>  
> >> 3. I did not see the plymouth splash
> >>
> >> 4. The screen background is not refreshed (the size change due to the
> >> panel is not done properly), so there are discontinuities in the
> >> background picture after closing windows. This is a cosmetic bug, yet a bug.
> > This is a bug, but this would be a PCManFM issue, since it is
> > controlling the desktop.
>  
> I see. Well, it does not bother me much. If you choose another default
> wallpaper (plain grey, with the ToriOS calligraphic character,
> attached), it will hardly be noticed until the user switches to another
> wallpaper ;-)
>  
> >> 1. Implausibly old time stamp output during expansion of the tarball:
> >>
> >> You can touch the affected files (works in the installed system, should
> >> work (I think) in chroot before making the tarball
> >>
> >> for i in $(find /var/lib/sudo);do touch $i;done
> >>
> >> This is also a cosmetic bug, but I remember that Ali complained about it.
> > Ahh, thanks for reminding me, I'll but that on the TODO list!!
> >> 2. Installing into a partition, I did not get the grub menu. The screen
> >> was black instead of the ToriOS splash, and the 'caps locked led' is
> >> flashing. A failure :-(
> >>
> >> Not even SysRq R E I S U B worked, only hard reset with the power
> >> button. On reboot, there is a grub menu but without the other operating
> >> systems, so it seems update-grub in the chroot environment is still
> >> failing. And when selecting in the grub menu I get
> >>
> >> error: symbol not found: 'grub_video_fb_set_active_render_target'
> >> (twice).
> >>
> >> Memory test works, but not starting ToriOS. After memory test it booted
> >> differently, but failing, and after that I could actually boot into
> >> ToriOS. I don't know what happened.
> >>
> >> sudo update-grub worked in the installed system.
> > So, this is mkpxpy?  Or do you think the issue is elsewhere?  I will
> > have to take a look to see.
>  
> I really don't know what happens, and why. I don't think we have changed
> anything near mkpxpy ??? Maybe a freak-out of the chroot session causing
> a bad clean-up before rebooting into the installed system. After several
> reboots, the system seems to start working like it should.
>  
> But the 'pretty and graphical grub' makes it harder to succeed with
> certain graphics hardware. Maybe this is the culprit.
>  
> And don't forget that update-grub has stopped working in chroot. It used
> to work well some iso-file versions ago.
>  
> >> menu://applications in pcmanfm works here, except that there are missing
> >> icons in 'Other'.
> > Not sure how to address this one.
>  
> This one (missing icons in 'Other') can be given lower priority.
>  
> >>
> >> Bugs(?)
> >>
> >> 1. ztweaks is missing (known bug).
> >>
> >> 2. 'Go to ToriOS website' causes the welcoming screen to disappear. Is
> >> that intended?
> > 
> >> 3. Nothing happens when I click on 'ImageMagick (Display)' in the menu,
> >> but the program works from the command line and it even struggled with a
> >> pdf file via pcmanfm until I installed evince ;-)
> > I will double check the ImageMagick Issue... I need to modify the
> > Desktop file.
>  
> I think it works, but ImageMagick (Display) is very cumbersome to use.
> It should work to switch page with the space-bar, but only one page.
> Then it goes to a mini window, and you need the mouse to focus on the
> main window again. The alternative via the menu takes a click - a
> movement - and another click. Not convenient, but it works. So it is OK
> in order to keep the tarball small and the iso file with CD size.
>  
> I suggest that you add an entry in your greeter to install evince, maybe
> also LibreOffice and some other program that we can agree is useful for
> many end users.
>  
> >> 4. The plymouth splash is malformed during shutdown (cosmetic bug).
> > Not sure what to do with that, how is it malformed?
>  
> The calligraphic character is OK, but the text fragments 'Tori' and 'OS'
> are compressed into irregular white blobs.
>  
> >>
> >> *. I'm sad to say this, but this version is a step backwards. I think
> >> you tried to improve too many things at the same time.
> >>
> >> Best regards
> >> Nio
> > 
> > 
>  
>
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Regards

-Israel
ToriOS Team