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Re: [FINAL BITS] (2) Release Notes D#2
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Den 2016-09-04 kl. 13:29, skrev Ali/amjjawad:
Hi all,
On *Wed, Aug 31, 2016* at 8:53 PM, Ali/amjjawad <amjjawad@xxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:amjjawad@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
[Draft 2]
4 days and not even one single word from anyone?! very interesting :)
_*ToriOS 1.0*_
* ToriOS is a GNU/Linux Operating System built for very old
computers (NON PAE) and for those who are interested and brave
enough to build their own system the way they like from a fully
working base with GUI and minimal installed packages by default.
* For more information, please visit: http://torios.top/
_*Technical Specifications*_
* ToriOS 1.0 is based on the stable release of Debian 8 (Jessie) -
https://wiki.debian.org/DebianJessie
<https://wiki.debian.org/DebianJessie>.
* Supported until 2020 - https://wiki.debian.org/LTS.
* Has two different kernels: Non-PAE and PAE kernel.
* Technically, 128MB of RAM is fine but you need more RAM if you
wish to use the Internet.
* Minimum Intel Celeron, ATOM or P4.
* 4GB disk space is more than enough.
* Either a CD/DVD drive or an USB port for the installer media.
* JWM is the default Windows Manager.
_*Features*_
_*Known Issues*_
_*Download ToriOS 1.0*_
* Please make sure to read the release notes before anything else,
specially the known bugs and the workarounds.
* Make sure to backup your important files. Don't blame the OS for
any fault if you failed to backup what you care about.
* http://torios.top/download/
Nothing else in mind at the moment. That's just the 2nd draft. There
should be more drafts until we reach the final one. All help and
contribution are welcome!
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Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us."
Best Regards,
Ali/amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad>
--
Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us."
Best Regards,
Ali/amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad>
Hi Ali,
I have one big objection:
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Technically, 128MB of RAM is fine but you need more RAM if you wish to
use the Internet.
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should be changed to
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Technically, 256 MB of RAM is fine but you need more RAM if you wish to
use the Internet for browsing to web pages.
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The reason for this is that I tested the release candidate now in my
Dell Dimension 4600 with a Pentium 4 processor. I bought this computer
in January 2004, it is 12 1/2 years old, and is rather typical for the
computers where ToriOS is supposed to work. And it needs 256 MB RAM to
install ToriOS using the OBI-installer. The installed system needs only
128 MB RAM, but it must be installed! (I can install it in text mode
with my original One Button Installer or with 9w.)
Maybe it is possible to use ToriOS live in VirtualBox with only 128 MB
RAM, but I doubt that it can install a system using the OBI-installer.
Possible reasons for the increased need of RAM:
1. Changed base from Ubuntu 12.04 to Debian Jessie. I don't know how
much this increases the size, but both the kernel, language packs and
systemd make a difference.
2. Change to highest compression of the tarball, 8MB --> 65MB RAM. A
solution is to use standard compression, but it means that things must
be stripped from the live system and/or the tarball to stay within CD size.
3. Graphics only. I could not boot with text screen. Maybe it is
possible, but the boot option 'text' did not do the trick, and I don't
know systemd well enough to make it work. Maybe a solution would be to
provide a line in the boot menu for booting in text mode.
See the attached file for more details about my test.
Best regards
Nio
Dell Dimension 4600 with Pentium 4 booted using the boot option 'mem'
to control the available RAM for the operating system.
____________________________________________________________________
A. Live system also used to install ToriOS:
mem=128M - did not boot: 'kernel panic'
mem=192M - works and shows the following output from free -m
root@torios ~ # free -m
total used free shared buffers cached
Mem: 183 178 4 12 11 81
-/+ buffers/cache: 85 98
Swap: 0 0 0
The OBI-installer failed during extracting from the tarball.
mem=256M - works and can run the OBI-installer (and install ToriOS)
root@torios ~ # free -m
total used free shared buffers cached
Mem: 246 235 10 9 31 118
-/+ buffers/cache: 85 161
Swap: 1931 21 1910
-o-
Comment:
I tested the release candidate now in my Dell Dimension 4600 with a
Pentium 4 processor.
I bought this computer in January 2004, it is 12 1/2 years old, and is
rather typical for the computers where ToriOS is supposed to work. It
needs 256 MB RAM to install ToriOS using the OBI-installer.
Maybe it is possible to use ToriOS live in VirtualBox with only 128 MB
RAM, but I doubt that it can install a system using the OBI-installer.
Possible reasons for the increased need of RAM:
1. Changed base from Ubuntu 12.04 to Debian Jessie. I don't know how much
this increases the size, but both the kernel, language packs and systemd
make a difference.
2. Change to highest compression of the tarball, 8MB --> 65MB RAM.
A solution is to use standard compression, but it means that things must
be stripped from the live system and the tarball to stay within CD size.
3. Graphics only. I could not boot with text screen. Maybe it is possible,
but the boot option 'text' did not do the trick, and I don't know systemd
well enough to make it work. Maybe a solution would be to provide a line
in the boot menu for booting in text mode.
________________________________________________________________________
B. Installed system
mem=128M - boots and works
After second boot into the installed system:
tester@torios ~ $ free -m
total used free shared buffers cached
Mem: 119 116 2 8 4 47
-/+ buffers/cache: 64 54
Swap: 1931 40 1891
During using ssh to connect to my main computer and exit this text remotely:
tester@torios ~ $ free -m
total used free shared buffers cached
Mem: 119 115 3 8 3 44
-/+ buffers/cache: 67 52
Swap: 1931 41 1890
tester@torios ~ $
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