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["Ali/amjjawad" <amjjawad@xxxxxxxxxx>]

On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 12:54 AM, Nio Wiklund <nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> [bottom posting]
>

Hi and thanks for replying :)


>
> Den 2016-09-04 kl. 13:29, skrev Ali/amjjawad:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> On *Wed, Aug 31, 2016* at 8:53 PM, Ali/amjjawad <amjjawad@xxxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:amjjawad@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>
>>     [Draft 2]
>>
>>
>> 4 days and not even one single word from anyone?! very interesting :)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>     _*ToriOS 1.0*_
>>
>>       * ToriOS is a GNU/Linux Operating System built for very old
>>         computers (NON PAE) and for those who are interested and brave
>>         enough to build their own system the way they like from a fully
>>         working base with GUI and minimal installed packages by default.
>>       * For more information, please visit: http://torios.top/
>>
>>
>>     _*Technical Specifications*_
>>
>>       * ToriOS 1.0 is based on the stable release of Debian 8 (Jessie) -
>>         https://wiki.debian.org/DebianJessie
>>         <https://wiki.debian.org/DebianJessie>.
>>       * Supported until 2020 - https://wiki.debian.org/LTS.
>>       * Has two different kernels: Non-PAE and PAE kernel.
>>       * Technically, 128MB of RAM is fine but you need more RAM if you
>>         wish to use the Internet.
>>       * Minimum Intel Celeron, ATOM or P4.
>>       * 4GB disk space is more than enough.
>>       * Either a CD/DVD drive or an USB port for the installer media.
>>       * JWM is the default Windows Manager.
>>
>>
>>     _*Features*_
>>
>>
>>     _*Known Issues*_
>>
>>
>>     _*Download ToriOS 1.0*_
>>
>>       * Please make sure to read the release notes before anything else,
>>         specially the known bugs and the workarounds.
>>       * Make sure to backup your important files. Don't blame the OS for
>>         any fault if you failed to backup what you care about.
>>       * http://torios.top/download/
>>
>>
>>
>>     Nothing else in mind at the moment. That's just the 2nd draft. There
>>     should be more drafts until we reach the final one. All help and
>>     contribution are welcome!
>>
>>     --
>>     Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us."
>>
>>     Best Regards,
>>     Ali/amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us."
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Ali/amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> Hi Ali,
>
> I have one big objection:
> -----
> Technically, 128MB of RAM is fine but you need more RAM if you wish to use
> the Internet.
> -----
> should be changed to
> -----
> Technically, 256 MB of RAM is fine but you need more RAM if you wish to
> use the Internet for browsing to web pages.
> -----
>

Ok, no problem ;)


>
> The reason for this is that I tested the release candidate now in my Dell
> Dimension 4600 with a Pentium 4 processor. I bought this computer in
> January 2004, it is 12 1/2 years old, and is rather typical for the
> computers where ToriOS is supposed to work. And it needs 256 MB RAM to
> install ToriOS using the OBI-installer. The installed system needs only 128
> MB RAM, but it must be installed! (I can install it in text mode with my
> original One Button Installer or with 9w.)
>
> Maybe it is possible to use ToriOS live in VirtualBox with only 128 MB
> RAM, but I doubt that it can install a system using the OBI-installer.
>
>
It makes sense, thanks a lot :)


> Possible reasons for the increased need of RAM:
>
> 1. Changed base from Ubuntu 12.04 to Debian Jessie. I don't know how much
> this increases the size, but both the kernel, language packs and systemd
> make a difference.
>
> 2. Change to highest compression of the tarball, 8MB --> 65MB RAM. A
> solution is to use standard compression, but it means that things must be
> stripped from the live system and/or the tarball to stay within CD size.
>
> 3. Graphics only. I could not boot with text screen. Maybe it is possible,
> but the boot option 'text' did not do the trick, and I don't know systemd
> well enough to make it work. Maybe a solution would be to provide a line in
> the boot menu for booting in text mode.
>
> See the attached file for more details about my test.
>
> Best regards
> Nio
>
>


-- 
Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us."

Best Regards,
Ali/amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad>