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[Israel <israeldahl@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Ali
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On 04/18/2018 07:06 AM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 9:09 AM, Israel <israeldahl@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:israeldahl@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>
>     Hi everyone,
>
>
> Hi,
>
>  
>
>
>     I have begun work on updating the packaging to work with ToriOS on
>     Debian Stretch.  Unfortunately PPAs are much harder to install,
>     which is
>     a downside, and the whole PAE thing with post precise Ubuntu is
>     now the
>     same with Stretch.
>
>
> Why?
>
> As per:
> https://wiki.debian.org/LTS
>
> Debian Jessie is supported until April 2020 which means 2 more years.
> That said, if we must, ToriOS 2.0 will 'also' be based on Debian 8
> (AKA Jessie).
>
> So, problem solved!
>
> We can worry about that with ToriOS 3.0, maybe?!
Actually this turned out to be wrong.
Stretch also supports both PAE and non PAE.  They dropped support for
i586 so some of the older processor features do not work anymore, but
most of those features are in processors that are extremely old

>
>
>     This may mean we decide to move back to Ubuntu for future releases
>     (when
>     18.04 comes out perhaps).  
>
>
> Ubuntu?
> That's not going to help ToriOS nor its users - why?
> Well, because:
> https://itsfoss.com/ubuntu-drops-32-bit-desktop/
>
> And, as all of you may know, Ubuntu does not support NON-PAE any more.
>
> However, we all know that sooner or later, NON-PAE CPU and even 32-bit
> CPU will sooner or later be dead and not usable any more.

Yes... this is true.  Debian Stretch is the way forward for us!

>  
>
>     Anyhow, I am working on this newer version of
>     ToriOS to continue the current developments I have been working on.  I
>     will also return to Jessie and make an updated image when I have a
>     better understanding of Stretch and the requirements of it, or build a
>     working ISO (if it is straight forward to do so).
>
>
> From the development point of view, I'd love to see ToriOS with 64-bit
> image based on Debian 8 rather than Ubuntu, at least for now!
>  
I have built a few 64bit images in the past, however I want to get the
current Debian Stretch up-to-par.  It is pretty good so far, however
there is a problem setting the locale in the newer version of OBI, since
we are not using dpkg, but instead setting it in a more cross linux
distro way.
>
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> Best Regards,
> Ali/amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad>


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