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["Ali Linx (amjjawad)" <amjjawad@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 11:02 PM, Israel <israeldahl@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hi Ali
>

Hi,



> (inline below)
> On 04/18/2018 07:06 AM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote:
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 9:09 AM, Israel <israeldahl@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
>>
>> I have begun work on updating the packaging to work with ToriOS on
>> Debian Stretch.  Unfortunately PPAs are much harder to install, which is
>> a downside, and the whole PAE thing with post precise Ubuntu is now the
>> same with Stretch.
>>
>
> Why?
>
> As per:
> https://wiki.debian.org/LTS
>
> Debian Jessie is supported until April 2020 which means 2 more years. That
> said, if we must, ToriOS 2.0 will 'also' be based on Debian 8 (AKA Jessie).
>
> So, problem solved!
>
> We can worry about that with ToriOS 3.0, maybe?!
>
> Actually this turned out to be wrong.
> Stretch also supports both PAE and non PAE.  They dropped support for i586
> so some of the older processor features do not work anymore, but most of
> those features are in processors that are extremely old
>


ToriOS is for old machines and I mean very old. Using the most recent and
the latest version of Debian is - IMHO - not good idea at all.

I see no reason why we should use Debian 9 instead of 8, at least now?!
By now, I mean for ToriOS 2.0!



>
>
>
>> This may mean we decide to move back to Ubuntu for future releases (when
>> 18.04 comes out perhaps).
>
>
> Ubuntu?
> That's not going to help ToriOS nor its users - why?
> Well, because:
> https://itsfoss.com/ubuntu-drops-32-bit-desktop/
>
> And, as all of you may know, Ubuntu does not support NON-PAE any more.
>
> However, we all know that sooner or later, NON-PAE CPU and even 32-bit CPU
> will sooner or later be dead and not usable any more.
>
>
> Yes... this is true.  Debian Stretch is the way forward for us!
>
>
Starting from ToriOS 3.0 at least, not 2.0 ;-)


>
>
>> Anyhow, I am working on this newer version of
>> ToriOS to continue the current developments I have been working on.  I
>> will also return to Jessie and make an updated image when I have a
>> better understanding of Stretch and the requirements of it, or build a
>> working ISO (if it is straight forward to do so).
>>
>>
> From the development point of view, I'd love to see ToriOS with 64-bit
> image based on Debian 8 rather than Ubuntu, at least for now!
>
>
> I have built a few 64bit images in the past, however I want to get the
> current Debian Stretch up-to-par.  It is pretty good so far, however there
> is a problem setting the locale in the newer version of OBI, since we are
> not using dpkg, but instead setting it in a more cross linux distro way.
>

Why wasting our time?
It's better for us, ToriOS and its users to continue with Debian 8.


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> Thank you!
>
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> Best Regards,
> Ali/amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad>
>
>
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>
>


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