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Re: Plans, not products

 

Thank you Jan,

I am not about giving up that easily,
and I also think we should gather our resources and layout what is possible.
Who, what, where, when, why and how ?

videos
In the back of my mind I kinda expect a (few) proper video(s) will only be shot
if we gather the right people together in one place and each and every
one involved
knows beforehand what is to be done that timeframe.
Therefore either such a thing is done with the support of a (few) LoCo
Or to be put on hold till UDS.
Never the less, the desire to make a professional ad is there.
And such a thing needs creative ideas
Things that do not fit well can be adjusted as a group.

But there are other ideas too, which can be worked out
and go out before natty release.
These also need to be worked out.

The last 2,3,4! meetings have been very chaotic
I do not want that anymore

we have this etherpad:
http://openetherpad.org/c5BupbHabP
Which is a layout for what to talk about

I volunteer to be hosting and provide the outlines
of that next meeting, but please stick to the subject!
The meeting is most likely to last 2 hours.
After that, people tend to come up with other creative works
so your welcome to stay in channel for a while.

Also, a lot of people sign up for teams just to monitor its progress.
Do not expect everyone signed up to participate
The list of people on the wiki is more reliable,
and also, when there are actual things to do more will come.

-- 
Met vriendelijke groeten,
Keimpe de Jong



2010/12/1 Jan Stedehouder <j.stedehouder@xxxxxxxxx>:
> Hi everyone,
> I've been monitoring the ongoings for our new group here in the last week
> and I am worried we are rapidly moving into the wrong direction. First, it
> is great we have a 100+ team members already. It shows there is a solid
> interest in our community to expand Ubuntu in the field of advertising.
> However, over the last couple of days I see two main topics:
> 1. How quick can we plan another IRC meeting and be disappointed about it,
> and
> 2. How many scripts for new commercials can we come up with in the shortest
> of time.
> Okay, I might be exagerating a bit, but considering Jason's statement in a
> previous message implying he is already considering calling it quits we run
> the risk of running into brick walls before ever taking of properly.
> Jason, I don't think it is wise making statements like this after a
> forthnight. Starting something new requires leadership and leadership
> requires stamina. One thing I think we should do  (instead of planning the
> next meeting ASAP or creating logos and scripts) is to design the proper
> framework. Communications 101. What is the message we want to bring out? For
> which target audiences? Which communications channels are best to reach
> those audiences? And then, only then, we start thinking about how to frame
> that message via products, and create a roadmap to get that message out. At
> this point we have no framework to judge to the suggestions for products
> other that personal preference.
> Am I willing to pull my load in this area? Yes I am, provided we go for
> quality first. That focus on quality served me well as a writer of various
> Ubuntu-related books and as editor for the Dutch Open Source Yearbook. In
> March 2011 I'll be hosting a free PR-training for FOSS-organizations in the
> Netherlands, for a group of people that want to promote their organizations
> and activities in the best way possible (where financial means come at a
> premium). It's no problem to make this training available to our team as
> well.
> So, my request is: please slow down a bit. Ubuntu 11.04 won't be out in five
> months. We can take some time to find the proper direction. If one
> IRC-meeting isn't to enough or if IRC isn't the proper channel of
> communication to reach the 100+ choose something else. To put it bluntly: if
> we can't find a way to communicate with 100 interested people, we will never
> find a way to communicate to the masses.
> Kindest regards
>
> --------------------------------------
> Jan Stedehouder
> Stavenissestraat 18
> 3086 RG Rotterdam
> 06 - 44 357 105
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