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Re: Plans, not products

 

I am extremely sorry Jan if my words came out as sarcasm.Please forgive me,
I had no attention of doing that. I hope this has not upset ed you.

Jason Odoom
http://www.google.com/profiles/jasonodoom
https://launchpad.net/~jasonodoom <https://launchpad.net/%7Ejasonodoom>



On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 6:43 AM, K.de Jong <k.dejong@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Thank you Jan,
>
> I am not about giving up that easily,
> and I also think we should gather our resources and layout what is
> possible.
> Who, what, where, when, why and how ?
>
> videos
> In the back of my mind I kinda expect a (few) proper video(s) will only be
> shot
> if we gather the right people together in one place and each and every
> one involved
> knows beforehand what is to be done that timeframe.
> Therefore either such a thing is done with the support of a (few) LoCo
> Or to be put on hold till UDS.
> Never the less, the desire to make a professional ad is there.
> And such a thing needs creative ideas
> Things that do not fit well can be adjusted as a group.
>
> But there are other ideas too, which can be worked out
> and go out before natty release.
> These also need to be worked out.
>
> The last 2,3,4! meetings have been very chaotic
> I do not want that anymore
>
> we have this etherpad:
> http://openetherpad.org/c5BupbHabP
> Which is a layout for what to talk about
>
> I volunteer to be hosting and provide the outlines
> of that next meeting, but please stick to the subject!
> The meeting is most likely to last 2 hours.
> After that, people tend to come up with other creative works
> so your welcome to stay in channel for a while.
>
> Also, a lot of people sign up for teams just to monitor its progress.
> Do not expect everyone signed up to participate
> The list of people on the wiki is more reliable,
> and also, when there are actual things to do more will come.
>
> --
> Met vriendelijke groeten,
> Keimpe de Jong
>
>
>
> 2010/12/1 Jan Stedehouder <j.stedehouder@xxxxxxxxx>:
> > Hi everyone,
> > I've been monitoring the ongoings for our new group here in the last week
> > and I am worried we are rapidly moving into the wrong direction. First,
> it
> > is great we have a 100+ team members already. It shows there is a solid
> > interest in our community to expand Ubuntu in the field of advertising.
> > However, over the last couple of days I see two main topics:
> > 1. How quick can we plan another IRC meeting and be disappointed about
> it,
> > and
> > 2. How many scripts for new commercials can we come up with in the
> shortest
> > of time.
> > Okay, I might be exagerating a bit, but considering Jason's statement in
> a
> > previous message implying he is already considering calling it quits we
> run
> > the risk of running into brick walls before ever taking of properly.
> > Jason, I don't think it is wise making statements like this after a
> > forthnight. Starting something new requires leadership and leadership
> > requires stamina. One thing I think we should do  (instead of planning
> the
> > next meeting ASAP or creating logos and scripts) is to design the proper
> > framework. Communications 101. What is the message we want to bring out?
> For
> > which target audiences? Which communications channels are best to reach
> > those audiences? And then, only then, we start thinking about how to
> frame
> > that message via products, and create a roadmap to get that message out.
> At
> > this point we have no framework to judge to the suggestions for products
> > other that personal preference.
> > Am I willing to pull my load in this area? Yes I am, provided we go for
> > quality first. That focus on quality served me well as a writer of
> various
> > Ubuntu-related books and as editor for the Dutch Open Source Yearbook. In
> > March 2011 I'll be hosting a free PR-training for FOSS-organizations in
> the
> > Netherlands, for a group of people that want to promote their
> organizations
> > and activities in the best way possible (where financial means come at a
> > premium). It's no problem to make this training available to our team as
> > well.
> > So, my request is: please slow down a bit. Ubuntu 11.04 won't be out in
> five
> > months. We can take some time to find the proper direction. If one
> > IRC-meeting isn't to enough or if IRC isn't the proper channel of
> > communication to reach the 100+ choose something else. To put it bluntly:
> if
> > we can't find a way to communicate with 100 interested people, we will
> never
> > find a way to communicate to the masses.
> > Kindest regards
> >
> > --------------------------------------
> > Jan Stedehouder
> > Stavenissestraat 18
> > 3086 RG Rotterdam
> > 06 - 44 357 105
> >
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