ubuntu-eg-council team mailing list archive

[Ahmed Shams <ashams@xxxxxxxxxx>]

On 15 April 2012 03:54, Ahmed Toulan <thelinuxer@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>
>
> On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 3:21 AM, Ahmed Shams <ashams@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Please pick managers for the current FGs:
>>
>> * Art:
>> I nominate: Anas Emad, Islam Hassan
>>
>>
> I think you meant Islam Elwazery, am I right ?
>
yes, I meant Wazery(if he agrees), I was mehayyes :)


> * Development:
>>
>>
> Didn't you say you have something for this FG ?
>
Yes, I have many things, but I can't focus on it now and I'm going to miss
some action in the near future, although I think it's more like a
mailinglist than a real fg.


> * Marketing:
>> I nominate: Jonathan (Anas can be here too, but I'm not sure of
>> availability these days).
>>
> +1 Jonathan (if he agrees)


>
> Both are fine by me.
>
>> * Support Squad:
>> I nominate: Toulan, Omar Mohsen
>>
>>
> +1 for Omar
>
You're active with giving support on al channels, so +1 Toulan.

* Women:
>> I nominate: Samar Ali, Hala El-Wzery, Nadeen Spirit(do we have else ;))
>>
>
> Samar is the current admin in ubuntu-eg-women. We said the manager will
> most probably be the first to join anyway unless the group members ask to
> change him/her.
>

> How about all three ? Each one of them is in a different governorate.
>
I'm not sure of their availability. let's postpone this point for a while?


>
>> I think managers' mission would be:
>> 1. Check proposed members for expertise/skills required OR history of
>> activity(then accept or deny joining proposal according to that).
>>
>
> This was the initial proposal, but should we start doing this now ? I mean
> there is no material ready for this for any of the groups,
>
Toulan, it's us who are going to make these docs and us who are currently
managing FGs, and it's not a big deal. But your point is valid, I'm trying
to enhance now.


> and I think we actually mentioned that joining would be open and the
> person's activity will be monitored inside the group.
>
and we said making it widely open will stack inactive ppl inside. We have a
problem that if we got some completely idle member inside an FG, what are
we going to do with her/him? Yes, it's going to be embarrassing to ask
her/him to leave, so, we need to put it clear that these FGs are not places
to spin down and grow your laziness(though I feel lazy right now ;D)


>
> To remind you we mentioned that there will be some kind of material for
> the new comer to read and s/he will pass through something like a test to
> ensure that new comers have the least required knowledge for a certain FG.
> But currently all the FG guides lack this information.
>
Yes, help me to do it then...


>
>
>> 2. Monitor activity inside the fg and poke idle-with-task members.
>>
>
> Do you guys have any idea on how to monitor support squad ? Especially
> that most of their work is outside launchpad.
>
Man, frankly, I think monitoring FGs' members won't help a lot if you have
an idle member(and even managers won't monitor anything, not constantly
atleast). For support, if the manager is a supporter too, of course s/he
will notice ppl in action and faded ones. We can escape this by having
periodic assessment for FGs, what you guys think?


>
>  3. Accept or refuse tasks assigned to that FG(or one of it's members)
>> by someone/team else from outside that fg.
>>
>
> +1
>
>
>>
>> I'm afraid that we might have been taken by the finally-released
>> structure and we take things lightly. I have a constant fear that, if
>> FGs turned into groups of lazy ppl, we would be have done absolutely
>> nothing! also, being on hurry shouldn't move our eyes away from
>> consistency.
>> Besides that, I have a question; are those managers going to be
>> *solely* designated by council or that choice should be somehow shared
>> with the wider community or even left to it.(for example, Support
>> Squad's manager can be chosen by collecting votes form folks on the fb
>> group)
>>
>> So, I urge to define FG manager's job, how to choose them and pick
>> those managers as soon as possible!
>
>
> As I mentioned before (in this email) about ubuntu-eg-women we actually
> said we shouldn't complicate stuff. If the community requires a change we
> will gladly make the change. And it shouldn't be the council's
> responsibility to choose the managers ( I mean after the initial choice).
>
Agreed ;)
Actually, what I meant by urging picking managers is, to make the
accepting/refusing of proposing FG members more consistent than now!
Myself, I don't really care about managers :)



-- 
Regards,
Ahmed

I'm planning to be completely offline
from April 15th till June 1st, due to relocating.
So sorry, if I couldn't reply during that period.