ubuntu-eg-council team mailing list archive

["Jonathan N. Hindi" <jonathan.hindi@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Guys,

I agree on all the above, Except that I will be the Ubuntu Eg Marketing FG
Manager, Because I have a lot to do, I don't want to be in-charge of a fg
and I can't follow up with the mailing list.

I am really sorry about that, But I am also thinking of deactivating my
membership from the council because I am not doing what I have to do. Its
bad timing, I am involved in a lot of activities and at the moment ubuntu
egypt is one of my priorities but I can't handle all the work at the same
time.

Please accept my apology.
--
Thanks & Regards,
*Jonathan N. Hindi
@JonathanHindi*



On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 8:13 PM, Ahmed Shams <ashams@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>
>
> On 15 April 2012 03:54, Ahmed Toulan <thelinuxer@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 3:21 AM, Ahmed Shams <ashams@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Please pick managers for the current FGs:
>>>
>>> * Art:
>>> I nominate: Anas Emad, Islam Hassan
>>>
>>>
>> I think you meant Islam Elwazery, am I right ?
>>
> yes, I meant Wazery(if he agrees), I was mehayyes :)
>
>
>>  * Development:
>>>
>>>
>> Didn't you say you have something for this FG ?
>>
> Yes, I have many things, but I can't focus on it now and I'm going to miss
> some action in the near future, although I think it's more like a
> mailinglist than a real fg.
>
>
>> * Marketing:
>>> I nominate: Jonathan (Anas can be here too, but I'm not sure of
>>> availability these days).
>>>
>> +1 Jonathan (if he agrees)
>
>
>>
>> Both are fine by me.
>>
>>> * Support Squad:
>>> I nominate: Toulan, Omar Mohsen
>>>
>>>
>> +1 for Omar
>>
> You're active with giving support on al channels, so +1 Toulan.
>
>  * Women:
>>> I nominate: Samar Ali, Hala El-Wzery, Nadeen Spirit(do we have else ;))
>>>
>>
>> Samar is the current admin in ubuntu-eg-women. We said the manager will
>> most probably be the first to join anyway unless the group members ask to
>> change him/her.
>>
>
>> How about all three ? Each one of them is in a different governorate.
>>
> I'm not sure of their availability. let's postpone this point for a while?
>
>
>>
>>> I think managers' mission would be:
>>> 1. Check proposed members for expertise/skills required OR history of
>>> activity(then accept or deny joining proposal according to that).
>>>
>>
>> This was the initial proposal, but should we start doing this now ? I
>> mean there is no material ready for this for any of the groups,
>>
> Toulan, it's us who are going to make these docs and us who are currently
> managing FGs, and it's not a big deal. But your point is valid, I'm trying
> to enhance now.
>
>
>>  and I think we actually mentioned that joining would be open and the
>> person's activity will be monitored inside the group.
>>
> and we said making it widely open will stack inactive ppl inside. We have
> a problem that if we got some completely idle member inside an FG, what are
> we going to do with her/him? Yes, it's going to be embarrassing to ask
> her/him to leave, so, we need to put it clear that these FGs are not places
> to spin down and grow your laziness(though I feel lazy right now ;D)
>
>
>>
>> To remind you we mentioned that there will be some kind of material for
>> the new comer to read and s/he will pass through something like a test to
>> ensure that new comers have the least required knowledge for a certain FG.
>> But currently all the FG guides lack this information.
>>
> Yes, help me to do it then...
>
>
>>
>>
>>> 2. Monitor activity inside the fg and poke idle-with-task members.
>>>
>>
>> Do you guys have any idea on how to monitor support squad ? Especially
>> that most of their work is outside launchpad.
>>
> Man, frankly, I think monitoring FGs' members won't help a lot if you have
> an idle member(and even managers won't monitor anything, not constantly
> atleast). For support, if the manager is a supporter too, of course s/he
> will notice ppl in action and faded ones. We can escape this by having
> periodic assessment for FGs, what you guys think?
>
>
>>
>>  3. Accept or refuse tasks assigned to that FG(or one of it's members)
>>> by someone/team else from outside that fg.
>>>
>>
>> +1
>>
>>
>>>
>>> I'm afraid that we might have been taken by the finally-released
>>> structure and we take things lightly. I have a constant fear that, if
>>> FGs turned into groups of lazy ppl, we would be have done absolutely
>>> nothing! also, being on hurry shouldn't move our eyes away from
>>> consistency.
>>> Besides that, I have a question; are those managers going to be
>>> *solely* designated by council or that choice should be somehow shared
>>> with the wider community or even left to it.(for example, Support
>>> Squad's manager can be chosen by collecting votes form folks on the fb
>>> group)
>>>
>>> So, I urge to define FG manager's job, how to choose them and pick
>>> those managers as soon as possible!
>>
>>
>> As I mentioned before (in this email) about ubuntu-eg-women we actually
>> said we shouldn't complicate stuff. If the community requires a change we
>> will gladly make the change. And it shouldn't be the council's
>> responsibility to choose the managers ( I mean after the initial choice).
>>
> Agreed ;)
> Actually, what I meant by urging picking managers is, to make the
> accepting/refusing of proposing FG members more consistent than now!
> Myself, I don't really care about managers :)
>
>
>
> --
> Regards,
> Ahmed
>
> I'm planning to be completely offline
> from April 15th till June 1st, due to relocating.
> So sorry, if I couldn't reply during that period.
>
>
>
> --
> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-eg-council
> Post to     : ubuntu-eg-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-eg-council
> More help   : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
>
>